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Iym padai thaali
Thanks will check it. Offhand, does it mean that Neduchezhian won the battle at an age when he was still wearing the IPThaali. Seems the poets wanted to exaggerate/highlight his youth. It would be great if we can get a description or better a pi…
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February 2009
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Contemporary Person belonging to Chozha Lineage??
Scammers all... I think there was even a "Nagaraja Chozhan M.A" protrayed by Sathyaraj in some movie......... Project to the future..2250 CE.. MakkalNidhi, a descendent of the Karunanidhi dynasty claimed that the Chidbaram temple was …
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February 2009
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Iym padai thaali
I also know of its Vaishnavite connections, but I believe this predates mainstream Vaishanvism. And Vel certainly is not a vaishnava weapon. So I would be looking more at Sangam age. After all Sanga kaalathu Unavu has made a come back, why not s…
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February 2009
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Visiting Ilankasokam
Dear Vijay, Virarajendra, Sivapathasekara Thank you all for the info. I am a bit disappointed that Ilangkasoka has not yeilded much connection to the Chozhas. Still I will try to make it at least few of the musuems mentioned. Of course time and…
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December 2008
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Kaarthikaeya and Muruga
I think we are diverging from the issue here. Kalidasa, whatever his date maybe, singing of Kumara as son of Shiva/Parvathi is not the issue, but whether/when that Kumara/subramanya was synthesised with Muruga of Tamizh culture. I do believe at …
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April 2006
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British Rule and Commonwealth
If you do not want debate or discussion on this, why express an opinion at all. The whole point of the e-group is to have an interactive discussion, wherein we can opine, correct and be corrected in our opinions and facts. To avoid it is to req…
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March 2006
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British Rule and Commonwealth
Sure there could be multiple claimants to these still colonial colonies, but first step should be to get the colonists recognize it is not theirs, then worry about the inheritors. there are many examples of such cases, Falklands, Diego Gracia(?) …
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March 2006
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British Rule and Commonwealth
Oh! well I do not have facts about the gems story. But any case can't accept that the current legitimate claim is by pakis. I am absolutely prejudiced about that. Also believe that there is justice to my bias
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March 2006
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British Rule and Commonwealth
Lahore or Kabul, think the brits would have taken it from Abdul shah Abdali's descendents. Anyway it would be the case of looters looting from other looters, so legitimacy I should think should be with the current owners of the orginial sou…
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March 2006
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British Rule and Commonwealth
That is what I had asked, "What does it mean to be in Commonwealth?" If it is only an grouping based on shared history, economic relations.. then no harm in it. In fact we ought to use such forums to correct the wrongs of the past, for…
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March 2006
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British Rule and Commonwealth
Sure, our colonial past is also history.And though we rightly rejected ritish rule, to deny our past is foolishness. As to commonwealth, first we need to know what it entails, before going into pros and cons of it.
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March 2006
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kavyadarsa - Dhandi - Samskrit poets - Pallavas
Got it, thanks for the reference
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March 2006
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jewels of tamilnadu-Kohinoor
Interesting info, any idea who posted it in Wiki. as Wikipedia has lots of amateurs like me contributing, so unless posted by some credible person, we have to take such info with a pinch of salt.
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March 2006
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kavyadarsa - Dhandi - Samskrit poets - Pallavas
Oh, possible, I do not recollect the novel very well, has been years since I read it.
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March 2006
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kavyadarsa - Dhandi - Samskrit poets - Pallavas
of course I forgot the "Rathina Haram" of Pandiyas, "Vengaiyin Maindan" revolves around Chozha's efforts to retrieve the Pandyan crown and the Aaram from Ilangai.
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March 2006
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kavyadarsa - Dhandi - Samskrit poets - Pallavas
Possible. but I think Mannan Magal one would be fictional, while Ugrodhayam has some evidences. I think I have come across a "Sen kathir Malai" in another historical fiction - Vishwaksenan/Sandilyan I am sure Pandyas would have had some…
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March 2006
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kavyadarsa - Dhandi - Samskrit poets - Pallavas
Yes I have read the novel, perhaps one of the better efforts of Sandilyan. Some years back I and my friend were thinking of collabarating on a fiction based on Pallava history called "Ugrodhayam" with the time period from the lose of …
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March 2006
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Cheras and Kerala
True. But coming back to Chera history, I think we have to look at origins of monarchy itself in Tamil country, where the tribal/rural chiefs like Ai, Velir etc., were ruling the country. I think the earliest rulers of present kerala region wou…
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March 2006
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marathas
Sometimes I think that is the very reason for the success, the federal nature of the maratha empire. Otherwise they would have fought among themselves and disintegrated. One way Maratha Confedracy was important was in that the helped keep age ol…
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March 2006
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elephants
I am not saying they out of context, but just define the context, namma thalaiver yanaipaagan kadahi ya, illati kalingathu bharani style. I thought the discussion was turning towards battle strategies using elephantine brigades, athukkuthan I wanted…
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July 2005
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elephants
Elephants was used a lot in the subcontinent and to lesser extent in other places, as to their effectiveness, that depends on the situation and the general commanding. Battles have been won and also lost b'cpz of the pachyderms. Unless we want…
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July 2005
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Peravai and Maiyam
Then if we are sticking to true names Tiruseerapuram, we shoudl call it "Kozhiur" Nice legend, but rather a stupid cock.
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brnandhan
July 2005
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deepening sethu
Let us be more ambitious and wish to have both, hae both a deep water channel for the ships and also a bridge connectivity
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brnandhan
July 2005
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frescoes
Historical or even mythological pedigree do not matter to the faith of people, as with everything in this transient world, even faith has a fashion, current example: the amazing growth of Prathyankara Devi cult. I once conversed with a orthodox vai…
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July 2005
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pandyas in the period of rrc
Sure royals are masters of survival, or rather to any royal throne active or extinct there will always be couple of claimants - even today. The last chola claimant I heard about was in late 1800s - one Andiyapadevar of Pichavaram, this reference is…
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July 2005
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european on the gopuram
Related Question: One of the equestrian statues at Aavudaiyarkovil is also of european style, is this a nayak construction or does it predate nayaks
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July 2005
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shadows and europeans
Well it may not be true - but sure adds to flavor of the place, after all legends are partly fact and partly fiction or pun a phrase - Legends are partly shadows that fall and partly that do not.
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brnandhan
July 2005
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bad luck in big temple ?
If such bad luck is there, then nothing gives me more pleasure than to have it.
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July 2005
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chola blood boiling
To join the issue, My mother is from Thirunelveli and my father from Thanjavur. the II set of Pandyas starting with maravarman sundara but for few exceptions were the worst kings to rule Tamil nadu, every generation either the princes would contes…
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brnandhan
July 2005
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tanjore named after an asuran
Forget places, even gods are named after/b'coz of Asuras Kesave - Destroyer of Kesi Madhusudhanan - K of Madhu Even Mathura is name after an Asure -Check UttraRamayana, I believe Shatruguna conquered Mathura.
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July 2005
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