Re :: RAJENDRA I - Ganga Jalam
  • Dear PNMS,

    Pls read the following details :

    You will realise that Tvkadu copper plates describe his conquor.

    And the ESALAM INSCRIPTION NAILS ALL THOSE WHO " MOCK " at Rajendra's expeditions as Bringing Ganga Jalam !

    " Udayar Shree Rajendra Chozha devar UTHARAPADATHIL
    BOOPATHIYARAI JEYITHARULI YUTHOTSAVA VIBAVATHAL GANGA PARIGRAHAM PANNIYARULINA GANGAI KONDA CHOZHNENNUM THIRUNAAMATHAL - ITH THIRUMUTRATHIL VAITHRULINA UTHAMAKKIRAM GANGAI KONDA CHOZHANIL.. "

    ITH THIRU MUTRATHIL - RIGHT IN THIS FRONT YARD (in Esalam) Rajendra kept the Ganges !

    He acquired the Name Gangai Konda Chozha because he conquered Uthirapadhi Boopathi (Emperors of Northern Province) by WAR !!

    First hand information !!


    sps
  • Adiyen still fails to see the strategic importance of defeating the Northern Emperors - especially since Rajendrar did not consolidate his victory nor have an effective administration of the North.

    Secondly, why go all the way for Ganga jalam when there was the Kaveri jalam at this doorstep (literally muttram of Chozha naadu)?

    Interesting because a supposedly "non-Tamil" king Nandivarman the 3rd (825-850) gloried in adding 'kaveri' to his title after defeating the Chozhas and Pandiyas (see Nandhi Kalambagam, 3rd Nandhivarman pattyams.)

    Also, Pallava kings repeatedly fought and beat off northern attacks on Tamil Nadu, even when at times Chozhas and Pandiyas supported the northern invaders just to get back at the Pallavas. If they had not fought off the northerners (rastrakoodars, chalukyas), imagine the state of Tamizh and Tamizhar in the 11th century!

    Interestingly, it is said that Nandivarman III gave his life to hear the Nandhi Kalambagam - he gave his life to hear Tamil! A non-Tamil king!?! Never heard of anyone else - Chozha or Pandiya - doing that. Closest we can think of is Andiyaman.

    Adiyen

    Pallava Nambi Mark Sargunam
  • > Interesting because a supposedly "non-Tamil" king Nandivarman the
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    neither language nor religion actually united the tamil kings. memories ran long and they were destroying each others capitals in novel ways.
    i agree this infighting weakened the system and no effective resistance offered to the sultanate armies when they came.

    to be very factual malik kafur and veerapandiyan were on equal footing in 1314 in terms of technology unlike babar and ibrahim lodi where the former had cannons.
    malik defeated and looted tamil lands entirely on his personal management of the troops.
    interestingly malik a eunuch had risen from the harem and he commanded even allaudin khilji's brother who was his subordinate.

    venketesh




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  • He Conquered Devagairi, took supplies from there for attacking Warangal.

    t as envoy to Delhi Court ( Dignified name for prisoner) made to give army and supplies for attacking Madurai.

    Srirangam was attacked by Hindus and new converts. One of the new converts was an eunuch and he commanded.

    But The valiant story of the Residents of Srirangam and The Devadasis is not known to many.
  • > He Conquered Devagairi, took supplies from there for attacking Warangal.

    when malik attacked warrangal of the kaakatiyas the siege of the two walled fort of warrangal is very well recorded in turkish court diaries.
    pratap rudra was the king and he never met malik.
    a gold statue of his in chains was sent in lieu of him. also elephants and treasure and the kohinoor diamond, first time recorded in history

    pratap never helped malik attack madurai
    in fact during the next invasion by thuklaks pratap was captrured and sent to delhi in a cage. half way he commited suicide.

    it was the hoysala dynasty that assisted malik during the madurai attack

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    veketesh
  • Thanks Venkat.

    help me in getting answers on the other questions i asked.

    Also any news on the paper of excavations in upper cauvery delta where they found terracota Ganesh. It had disappeared from all libraries. They have in their catalogue but say it is missing.

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