Focus Vanathy
  • Dear Krishnana and all
    there nice discussion on who achieved what and how good they were.I think Vanthy's charectorisation was indeedd good that so many people were called Vanathy...

    A girl who looses her father and mother longs or love love at first sight but he is the emperors son....
    Sends him to the battle feild and holds a torch for him...Her focus is only one thing thats Arulmozhi...

    Its for Arulmozhi that she almost gave her own life in the elephants trunk...
    Its for Arulmozhi that she vows not to become queen just to proove the fact shes not a pampered princess wanting to become empress
    Its for Arulmozhi that she stands up agaist her cherihed and respected Periyappa
    She shows her creativity in taking Arulmozhi past her Periyappa remember disguised as Yanai pagan...

    Every person strives to look at life in a different way She was content to be with the Yanaipagan she met as a teenager and Nature blessed her with a greater feat >>>mothering a great warrior Rajendra

    So please dont call Vanathi.......meek and docile and Stupid
  • Its heartening to know that there is another soul (Dr. Sri) who
    understands Vanathy here..

    Now, I want to do a little analysis of the 'complex' characters like
    Kundavai et al and then measure up Vanathy against them.

    Kundavai - While Kundavai is portrayed as a strong willed,
    intelligent women in PS, what about her emotional intelligence?.
    While her love with Vanthiathevan is there, you will see that it is
    he who professes it more in every meeting and I have a nagging
    feeling that she just uses it to leverage his skills for helping her
    brother. And her wish to remain in the Chola naadu (and be a power
    extraordinaire within the kingdom) is pushing her towards
    Vanthiathevan. 'Manipulative' is a lesser term to describe Kundavai.
    She is very intelligent and powerful and is not shy of using that
    power over people to achieve her ends. She displays very less EI and
    shows herself emotionally dry.

    Poonguzhali - My mom's fav character. She is very emotional to be
    sure but also very practical. She doesn't mind professing love for
    Arulmozhi and then end up marrying Senthan Amuthan. Her decisions
    are more emotionally driven with a lot of practicality and in not
    fighting for Arulmozhi displays her cowardice in accepting
    practicality over what her heart says.

    Nandhini - Do I need to defend Vanathy against her?. SHe is complex,
    I agree. But she is also wily and moulded in the lines of the great
    Roman queens who wrought destruction and infamy to the emperors.
    Manipulative and calculating, she is bent on revenge and a tragic
    love in the past which makes her bitter (poison Ivy, anyone?).

    Now lets talk of our heroine (she is!), she is in her teens and its
    an awkward age and she is naive and starts loving Arulmozhi before
    knowing that he is a prince. She loves him because her heart says so
    and is willing to defend him in anyway possible for her. She has
    that innocent love which I would equate with that crush that , I
    think, everyone of us has experienced during the high school years.
    Longing to get noticed, not worrying about the practicality of the
    thing, thinking of nothing but the person we have the crush on etc.
    Of course, we grow out of it and become a kundavai, poonguzhali or
    nandhini in our own lives. But whatever we do after this first crush
    is done with a consciousness of the fact and cannot be termed
    completely pure. This is where Vanathy stands out as a character
    apart from her supposed rivals. None in PS can measure up against
    her. If you hate her for her purity, then I think probably you've
    forgotten your teen years or too old to remember them.

    Although I said none, there is one who can be compared to Vanathy in
    PS. It is Manimegalai. Her love for Vanthiathevan is equally pure
    and if you notice, she is also in her teens. But, alas, she is not
    the herione of the story and thus got sidestepped into oblivion.

    Not sure how much flak am going to take for trashing all the other
    characters here!!!

    Muthu Prakash R

    http://sibipranav.blogspot.com
  • I too like Vanathy... especially after when, towards
    the end of the story, kalki describes the incident in
    which vanathy calls arulmozhi "yaanaippaaga"..
    It was here that Kalki puts up a foundation for
    Vanathy's Behaviour...

    Anyway...
    from my point of view, the heroine of the story is ...
    well heroines are Nandhini and Kundavai ...


    shankar
  • orumaasam dhiwaker rwanda poitaaru

    inga vaanathiya " vaanaththa pola uyarthiteenga"


    vanthu pathil koduppaar.

    actually the yanai pagan scene comes in the flashback.somebody must
    have told kalki half way that vanathy charecter was not upto the mark.
    give some build up.
    from a obvious gold digger he made her a romantic heroine.
  • romba varuthammaa irukku enakku... serious discussions ellaam
    nadakkumbodhu iam out of sync nnu ninaichaa....

    anyway, vanathiya pugazhndhu pesi irukkeenga... oru vidhathula
    correct dhaan... but oorukku vndhappuram dhaan discussions la pangu
    kolla mudiyumnnu ninaikkaren..... adhu vraikkum edhaavadhu
    mudinjavaraikkum kalandhukkaren....

    hmm........
  • dear all

    the women of ps all had their own ambitions

    manimekalai wanted to marry vanthiyathevan
    (a simple wish- he was a nobody actually)
    kunthavai wanted a scion of sundara solar family on the throne.
    nanthini wanted to set up an independent pandya kingdom
    ( strong women with political motives)

    pungkuzhali ( with psychological problems)wanted to marry a king
    vanathy ( with her frequent fainting fits )wanted to marry rrc.

    did you all notice . only the last two succeeded.
  • pungkuzhali - harmless?
    a girl who killed a cheetah with the backbone of a shark?
    Natarajan, I agree that pungkuzhali is a lovable charecter.
    ( I have only her picture displayed on my writing board).
    but she had some psychologial problems( not madness)
    but that is undersandable when you find a girl living alone in the
    kodikarai forest with nobody to share her feelings.
    but then the demands she makes of everybody including senthan amudhan
    is sometimes atrocious.
  • Natarajan srinivasan sir....

    enna achchu ungalukku??? poonguzhalikku poi support panreenga....

    sir, andha pombalai sariyaana mental case...... baagaayathila irukka
    vendiya aalu.....

    yosich paarunga... poongkuzhali naatukk rani aa irundha podhu makkal
    evvalavu mandai kaanjiruppaanga...

    idhai ellaam vida paavam andha uthama chozhan..... orey mersalaaghi
    iruppaan...

    now i got the reason why he is caled "uthama chozhan"....

    pinna enna panradhu... andha marai kazhanda case.... araathu ...kku
    vaazhkai kuduthavanai "uthaman" nnu dhaan sollanum..
  • andha pombalaiyoda loose thanathai compare panrappo ... naane evvalavo
    thevalai nnu thonudhu.....
  • natarajan srinivasan sir....

    ungaloda pain ai pathi yosikkareengaley... poonguzhali ya rani
    adainja makkaloda pain pathi ennikkaavadhu yosicheengalaaa????
    enakkennavo poonguzhali character conceive panni develop
    pannumbodhu .... Mr. krishnamurthy ku kooda konjam budhdhi pedhalich
    poirukkumnnu ninaikkiren....
  • Dhiwaker
    this is too much
    poongkuzhali had her share of problems but she was no worse than the
    other women of ps
    but dont you blame Mr. krishnamurthy for his creation of the
    charecter.
    just imagine the democratic outlook of kalki
    a commoner couple on the throne of karikalan.
    fantastic
  • Dear Natarajan

    nobody gets a better introduction than pungkuzhali in ps.
    when she puts vanthiyathevan in a cave for a night she tells him a
    cheetah resided in the cave earlier.

    and when he asks her pointing to the jaw bone of a shark lying
    nearby " whats this?" she tells him with this I killed that cheetah"
    a physically strong girl which is proved by her boating trips to lanka

    but somehow till the last kalki gives us an impression that it was
    the throne that she was after and not a man.
    like normal men were not enough for her. she talks about kollivaay
    pisaasukaL as her lovers. and then wants to marry the emperors son.
    and arulmozhi does not even recognize her in lanka.seems she is
    constantly under a delusion.
    and poor senthan amudhan suffers because of his love for her.

    not only a confusing charecter. but a confused one too. but as you
    say most helpful and selfless.
  • vanakkam,

    unga ellorukkum poramainga, vera ethuvum illai. antha kalaththileye
    oru pen, evvalavu thunichaloda irunthirukka.

    Her likes and dislikes were different. True she was nomadic but that
    doesn't classify her as a 'loosu'. Anirudhdhar kannileye viralai
    vittu aattinava poongkuzhali!

    swetha
  • vanakkam,

    > nanthini wanted to set up an independent pandya kingdom (strong
    women with political motives)

    Please spare me! Nandhini had nothing to do with a free Pandiya
    kingdom. All she wanted was revenge against Kundhavai and AK! In my
    opinion she manipulated Ravidassn and co as well as Periya
    Pazhuvettaraiyar to achieve her goals.

    swetha
  • kunthavai harassed her 10 years back

    ak jilted her years ago.

    why should nanthini seek revenge now.???
    ( anyway ak would have grovelled at her feet whenever she gave him an
    opportunity to. he himself says so.that would have been the best
    revenge on kunthavai too.)

    why should nanthini go to the pallipadai forest to crown a heir to
    the pandya throne
    why should she steal from pazhvettaraiyar to feed the
    aapaththuthavikal.

    there was a patriotic trait in her ever since she saw veerapandyans
    murder. that certainly cannot be ignored.
    venketesh
  • sir..... venaaam... venaaam... enakku kovam varaadhu.... vaaradhunnu
    solrenneyya.. appuram en adhai edhir paakkareenga......
  • venkatesh sir....

    everybody has problems.. not in fiction ... but also in real life.. u
    know what my problem is....

    anyway... poongkuzhali yes is loosu only..... some may call her in
    different terms.. but to me the right term is loosu...."paambin kaal
    paambu ariyum" nnu venumnaa kooda interpret pannikkalaam...

    democratic outlook ellaam appuram sir.... "thyaga boomi' nnu oru
    kadhai ezhudhinaaru... padichirupeengannu ninaikkaren... ellaam
    cinematic aa irukkum.... adhai kooda democratic nnu sollallaam....

    kitta thatta "mudhalvan" kadhai maadhiri dhan poonguzhali ascending
    the throne.... fantasy has no limits sir.....
  • Dear Natarajan,
    not that i dont like pungkuzhali. i adore her charecter ever since I
    read ps first.
    she is miles beyond vanathi or kunthavai in selflessness.
    but nothing wrong in analysing the charecter.
    some of these points were raised on the return trip of the recent
    yathirai, when the male members of the bus trip analysed the 5 major
    female charecters for a long time.
    of course dhiwaker did not have a good word about all the five. but
    the rest agreed they all had some good points.
  • venkatesh sir...

    matter ae anga dhaan... ellaarum elaathayum oththunda oru swaarasiyam
    illaama poirukkum sir...

    discussion ai kindle pannanum.... trip memorable aa irukkanum.. indha
    motive la dhaan ellaathukkum edhir vaadham pannadhu.....
    kumbakonathilaerndhu kilambinappuram ellaarum summa irukka
    aaramichiteenga..

    as usual back seat la ukkaarndhirundha enakkum rajni ramki kkum
    porukkalai.... thoonga vuda koodaadhu..... edhaavadhu discussion
    irukkanumngradhukkaaga thaan valiya vandhu oru topic aaramichu kindle
    pannadhu... mathapadi onnum illai...

    nalla points ellaar kittayum irukku sir...

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