Trip to South East Asia
  • Include my name for the trip. I am there with my
    husband as well.

    My cousin, who is an avid traveller has visited this
    place and has a wonderful collection of photographs. I
    will ask him to send details on the place... but he is
    one who believes in travelling with his just back-pack
    and travelling and staying and also eating wild.

    I will post more info on this.

    March is financial year end and hence would be
    difficult for many ( in terms of work and funds as
    well with IT deductions.)

    How about January?
  • Hi all,

    I am also interested in the overseas trip,
    any time after december is fine with me if the trip is
    with in 2 weeks

    atthuku malae office la leave kuduka matangoooooooo :)
  • Vanakkam!

    My cousin, Balaji sent me this mail today on Angkorwat
    based on his personal visit and experience.

    I have copies and pasted his mail to me for benefit of
    the group members.
  • Dear kamal
    what does a return ticket cost to thailand???
    that should be the most expensive part of the trip.
    I dont think the total cost would as a norm exceed twice the fare.
    (??????)and ofcourse one may need shopping money.
    for everybody else,theres an article in today's hindu( Or d.c????)
    about holidaying in bali by singer unnikrishnan about how south
    indians would like food in bali.
  • Hi Venketesh,

    I have been to Bali and I must say, that is probably the one place in the
    world that Indians and particularly Hindus are made to feel very welcome.
    Fabulous place. When I went there I tried to trace down a small "museum"
    that they had. Not very well known. There were quite a few old manuscripts
    written in old Balinese or Javanese...But one can find lot of South Indian
    as well as Oriya influences there.. Wonderful old temples.
  • oriyan influences


    dear Arun
    now that you mention it oriyan influences we can trace in a lot of
    places. mainly lanka.
    sinhalese use many words akin to oriya.
    i guess when their land was shattered after the kalinga war they
    scattered like the lost tribes of israel.

    but one thing. gradual imigration and trader's influences have a more
    lasting impact on the new land rather than a conquest.

    so we should appreciate the trading community for having taken the
    chola culture and tha pallava culture before that to the far east.
  • > what does a return ticket cost to thailand???

    If it is Jan end or something, we should start planning right now.
    If it is march we have some more time.

    We have budget air careers in asia now. I am not sure if they are
    Sing$ 350 - but from chennai to singapore via regular flight is
    Sing$ 700 ( 1 Sing$ = Rs. 25)

    I see that we are keeping Thailand as the base and from there going
    to Ankor. Bali might be slightly ambitious since it is located down
    singapore and indonatian visa fees is rediculous - but I will leave
    that to members.

    I have been to Bankok and kind of know what to see etc. Nothing much
    other than few good buddha temples - but there is a place 100 KM
    from bangkok called Ayudhayya where ruins of ancient empire are
    preserved - good place to see.

    If members are planning in Jan - we need to start discussing
    agressively on plans etc.

    Budgets need to be fully understood first before all others.

    Mrs.Uma : Can you ask Mr.Balaji about overall budget required -
    thailand visa fees - airport fees - stay - ankor charges etc ?
  • > I have been to Bankok and kind of know what to see etc. Nothing much
    > other than few good buddha temples - but there is a place 100 KM
    > from bangkok called Ayudhayya where ruins of ancient empire are
    > preserved - good place to see.
    >
    >
    Dear Gokul

    the place you are talking about sounds so much like like ayodhya.
    does it have something to do with a a hindu dynasty?????
  • dear all

    so if bali is going to be ruled out can we talk about myanmar and
    cambodia ????
    myanmar had a lot of cultural contacts with india and sri lanka.
    they could not have left out the cholas definitely.
    soodaamani viharam in nagai must have attracted visitors.
    and pagodas of myanmar are mega buildings from that era or slightly
    later.
    any info people???/
  • Venkatesh,

    >>> the place you are talking about sounds so much like like ayodhya.
    >>> does it have something to do with a a hindu dynasty?????

    Dr. JayBee had referred to the kingdom of Ayuththaya in his mail
    about Sugothaya a few days back. I've pasted the relevant section
    for your benefit.

    ****************************************
    Rajendra Cholza's naval campaign involved four places
    which are at present in Thailand.
    Coming to Sukho 'Tai......
    Tai is the name of the people.
    The 'Tai people originated from Southern China. They were
    forced to migrate into the outskirts of the earstwhile Khmer
    Cambodian
    Empire. They formed a kingdom after a few generations.
    This kingdom was known as 'Sukho Tai' - 'The Happiness of
    the
    Tai people'. At one time it was larger than the present Thailand.
    It was replaced by Ayuththaya kingdom.
    Later on, the Chakri Dynasty took over. King Mongkut and
    his son Chulalongkorn took the kingdom to modern times.
    *****************************************

    Located approximately 85 km north of Bangkok, the city was the Thai
    capital from 1350 to 1767. During this period Thai culture
    flourished, and Ayuthaya became a centre for international commerce.
    The present day city is located at the confluence of the Chao Phaya,
    Pa Sak and Lopburi rivers. A canal joins them and encircles the
    town. Ayuthaya has many historic ruins, two museums and is a
    fascinating place to visit.

    More travel details are at:
    http://www.amazing-thailand.com/Ayuthaya.html

    Photos at :
    http://www.terragalleria.com/theravada/thailand/ayuthaya/ayuthaya.htm
    l

    http://www.xs4all.nl/~devadeep/images/Central_Thailand/Ayuthaya/Ayuth
    aya.html

    Vidya
  • > the place you are talking about sounds so much like like ayodhya.
    > does it have something to do with a a hindu dynasty?????

    Thailand is more Buddhist - but you will be surprised to see the
    deep rooted hindu influence there. You can see the
    thailand "version" of ramayana - with hanuman and ravan - in the
    murals of the emarald buddha temple.I can only envy the excellent
    state in which the murals have been preserved against the chola
    paintings.

    Right from the version of saying greetings (swantika which is said
    with clasped hands exactly like India) there are many things to
    admire.

    Lord brahma is worshipped everywhere in Bangkok !! A golden ganpathi
    sits right in front of a big shopping mall and receives all the
    buddhist style worships !
  • Buddhism has the capacity to amalgamate itself with other religions
    for example the holiest shrine for karthikeya worship in sri lanka-
    KATIRKAMAM- is run by a buddhist trust.
    a budhist amatharu(matha guru) blesses people coming there.
  • closer home , a trip to srilanka should also be considered.
    much of the medeival architecture has been built in chola era or
    after it.
    anurathapura, sigiriya are all good places to see for a history
    student.
  • > closer home , a trip to srilanka should also be considered.

    Plan this in december - i'll try to join

    Ofcourse, this could be another PS yathirai touching places where
    arulmozhi goes:-)

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