No Chera King was converted to Islam
  • Dear Brother SPS,

    You gave excellent information and the relevent old discussions also.

    It is immensely helpful in developing my new novel MANI MAALA, which deals with kulasekara varmar.

    Actually I need this information to confirm whether he has converted to Islam.

    If youfeel it is highly contraversial issue, you may inform me through my personnel mail.

    Thank you very much dear
  • This is our problem. We think all these authors are historians and believe what they say.
    They are historic fictions
  • What a nice name u have selected !!

    Piranthagan Kundhavaipirattiyar !!

    Veeman Kundhavai is supposedly the first of such names in the Chola dynasty of Queens adorned the Medivial Chola Throne !

    Then, Of course Kundhavai - Vandhiyathevan.. and promptly

    Rajaraja named his daughter also Kundhavi !! She married Vimladhithan later.

    that apart,

    Writers - particularly Fiction Writers - have the liberty of putting such details and it is difficult for all of us to check whether certain detail is right or not right...!!

    And Historians also rely on various versions and difficult to identify what is True History..

    What one calls True History may not be acceptable to another..

    Till it is disproved otherwise - some such details do hold water !!

    Simple case :: Till the British decyphered the Big Temple inscriptions it was believed that KARIKALAN constructed the Big Temple !! WE have records / Literatures depicting this in " Peruvudayar Ula " by one Kollttayur Sivakkozhundhu who brought out this during the periods of Sarfojhis !!


    Dear Kaliasam Sir,

    I think your query is answered by memeber Kundhavai. No fresh controversy envisaged since Kannadasan mentioned this earlier..

    You handle using the Liberty avl to Fiction Writers.

    rgds/ sps

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  • Can't be put in better words SPS sir. I have one more request regarding
    the dates. It will be better if the periods and dates mentioned in the
    inscriptions and literature as per the existing tamil/ hindu calendar
    systems, which are primary dates, are specified along with the
    Christian/ julian equivalents, which are derived/ relative. Our calendar
    systems is 'cyclic' and matching it with the liner western calendar can
    lead to errors. I believe most of the traditional events will have the
    following data: event based era, year, month, thithi and nakshtra and
    vara ( sunday, monday etc.)
    Otherwise our traditional calendar system may weaken and vanish and our
    dating of past events may not be accurate.
    sampath
  • Respected sir,

    After Rav Bahadur LN Swamikkannu Pillai - who helped in decyphering several important astronomical data in the inscriptions - which was well availed by Kudanthai Scholar Sethuraman avl and after his untimely demise I am not aware of any other Scholar using the Calender system adopted by LN Swamikkannupillai.

    However this has been running in my mind for some time and talking to some similar minded persons.

    Incidentally Sir - i vaguely recall LN Swamikkanuppillai's scripts are avl in Trichy St Joseph's college !!

    Though not me an alumini of Trichy St Josephs, I have some special affinity always as some of my friends studied over there !!

    warm rgds / sps

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  • SPS sir,
    My demand/ request is slightly different. It is better to carry both
    inscriptional dates (in whatever system and format given) and the
    derived/ converted julian dates whenever date reference is given. This
    to ensure that original dates are not lost or forgotten.
    Analysing the astronomical data is the job of the specialist and no two
    astronomers will agree. Because when all data do not fit into the
    proposed theory, rogue ones(!) are discarded.
    Sampath
  • Actually, this is a good idea, in any case. Each calendar system (yes, even
    the Gregorian) has a certain error associated with its cycle calculation -
    incidentally, _all_ calendars are cyclic, and Gregorian uses only the solar
    cycle. If the corrections aren't done, we end up with errors. For example,
    the year 1900 wasn't a leap year, but MS Excel thinks that it is, so there's
    a bug in Excel when you do a date calculations across 1900 (like counting
    the number of days from 1880 to 1920).

    This can be avoided by using multiple systems - hence our traditional system
    of giving dates using the lunar, solar and star cycles. Even if your
    calculation on one is not accurate, on average, all calculations cannot be
    wrong, and you can still work your way to the correct date.

    Today, with computers, given all the cycles, it's possible to work out these
    dates to remarkable accuracy (a day in a few thousand years isn't too bad,
    all things considered - an error of less than 0.01%!)

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