> > The Thirunagari village being nearby to river Uppanaaru
even the main river that touches thillai is uppanaru.
talking about rivers with common names thiru vallam near ranipet - the home town of vallavarayan vanthiyahevan has a river names "niva" also called "poinai" this river is now being called ponni.
assuming that cauvery( ponni nathi) never touches tanjore town but a river called ponni runs in thiru vallam who is the ponniyin selvan that kalki really meant??( with vd out ranking RRc in the number of pages of the novel too?
venketesh
and > Seashore, salt watered wells are only available But at the temple > complex, a well, having very sweet water, is always available even > in dry periods too. This is drinking water for more than 50 families > as well for temple rituals daily. > > > > second, It was my native place. > ============================================> > > Very nice to know you hail from this Divyadesam ! > > Well with sweet water speciality - reminds me of another thing :: > > In THIRUNEELAKKUDI (ref. Archieves : when Appar was tied with Stone > and put in Mallai or put in limestone furnace, he was thinking of > NAMACHIVAYAM .. hymning these incidents in Thiruneelakkudi > padhigam !) near KUMBAKONAM - the Sthala vriksham is Jack fruit tree. > > > The ones which are presented as NAIVEDHYAM to the deity are always > sweet. Others, when taken out of the temple without such offering, > found decayed ! > > Another thing, near Thiruvali - just towards THIRUVENGADU - the > river runs from NORTH to SOUTH and hence is named as MANIMUTHAR and > on the banks Sadhasiva Brahmendra's Guru PARAMASIVENDRA ACHARYA's > (Jeeva) SAMADHI is located and the Siva is Kasi Viswanathar and > Consort Viasalakshi. > > It is interesting to note that in NERUR, near KARUR, Cauvery runs > NORTH to SOUTH and on the banks SADHASIVA BRAHMENDRA's (ONE of the > Jeeva) Samadhi/s is located ! > > regards/ sps >
> assuming that cauvery( ponni nathi) never touches tanjore town but a > river called ponni runs in thiru vallam who is the ponniyin selvan > that kalki really meant??( with vd out ranking RRc in the number of > pages of the novel too? > > venketesh > >
eppadi ayya...eppadi....ungalala mattum mudiyuthu... room pottu yosipeengala.... :) But really a novel view point...except Kalki, no one can answer.
> > Dear Sir, > > haiyaa.. unga ponnu aiyarin magan theory maaridichaa? >
that and this theory are compatible. kalki could have imagined himself as vanthiyathevan no? nandini, kunthavai pungkuzhali and manimekalai flirt with him in the space of 30 chapters. actually a better role to assume than goody goody RRC charecter.
> but the name ponni is mentioned in thevaram too for kaveri pls see the link
never disputed that. but kaveri never touches tanjore town. muruganandam a son of the soil discovered that error and pointed to me when he read manuscript of kaviri mainthan. i had assume it ran within tanjore fort. venketesh
> > talking about rivers with common names thiru vallam near ranipet - > the home town of vallavarayan vanthiyahevan has a river names "niva" > also called "poinai" > this river is now being called ponni.
In the novel AM was, a number of times will be refered to as "Ponniyin Selva"(one place I could very well remember was in the 5th book, when he tries to enter the Thanjai fort, without the knowledge of Chinna Pahzuvettyar) and a story that oomai Rani saves AM from Ponni river when he was child clarifies who is ponniyin selvan.
Our dear Muruganandham and Venkat point out that CAUVERY runs at THIRUVAIYARU (where it split and gave to Sundarar .. etc) and what runs at Thanjai is a branch.. !
they are right.
I just touched that it was GREATER THANJAI then ...
Can some locals of tanjavur tell us the names of the rivers biscting it. and hoe far is cauvery from the big temple?
satheesh and sivaram, i have very little doubt that kalki's PS is about RRC. its just a co incidence that I pointed out. i even dount if kalki mentions any details about thiruvallam. may have mentioned it once in reference to Vd
> > One more kaattaru is there near vallam ( after the PRIST university while > traveling to Trichy) which is called Muthalai muthu vaari, this will have > water flow only during rainy season.
fantastic satheesh
one small doubt. can you check if the above river is on the route of vanthiyathevan to tanjore. could its name have inspired the stuffed muthalai episode of vanathi?
you mean his first visit?? If yes there is less possibility he could have followed this route, because the Muthalai episode happened in arisilaaru if I am correct? After visiting kudainthai Jodhidar this muthalai episode happens and VD went to Thanjavur via Thiruvaiyaaru.
But there is a chance for him to touch this river after thiruvaiyaaru near Thanjai. Anyway I will check the course of the river and let you know.
> > > you mean his first visit?? If yes there is less possibility he > could have > > followed this route, because the Muthalai episode happened in > arisilaaru if > > I am correct?
the river may have changed in the book but the episode must have been triggered off by the name of this river???
towards kaveri after starting from kadambur. If this is true he could have never touched Pazhuvur.
BTW, Here are the details of the Muthalai muthu vaari according to my friends in Vallam; There is no specific origin for this muthalai muthu vaari, it collects the water from all high points near vallam and joints the river puthu aaru at a village called kuruvaadipatti. This village is located at around 4 to 5 kms from vallam. This river is flowing from east to west direction (When you go to trichy from thanjai it flows from left side to right side).
I would appreciate a snapshot from google maps or yahoo maps, with the names of the rivers, :) Gives a fantastic perspective to everyone, including dummies like me.
HI All we sure should appreciate satheesh for his geographical knowledge of his home town how many of us from chennai can name the two major rivers here.
satheesh can you also enlighten us on kollidam which once again has more space devoted for it than kaviri in the novel ponniyin selvan.
ponniyin selvan ,rajarajan , belongs to not only to tanjavoor but to entire cholanadu. he belongs to entire chola naadu not only to tanjore . most of the incidents took place inkudanthai and other ponni area.