Although I dont wish to open the New Year topic again, I found 2 opposing views on this subject in a Tamil related site. Some of our more knowledgeable members might like to throw more light on the views expressed here or at least on the astronomical data mentioned here. Which of these should a layman trust?!
Sandeep, please refer my previous mail in this thread. Here are my view points:
IT IS MY DUTY TO WARN ALL THE FRIENDS HERE THAT PLEASE DO NOT GET CARRIED AWAY BY THE FALSE PROPAGANDA VIGOROUSLY DONE BY THIS POST OF IT IS MY DUTY TO WARN ALL THE FRIENDS HERE THAT PLEASE DO NOT GET CARRIED AWAY BY THE FALSE PROPAGANDA VIGOROUSLY DONE BY THIS POST OF Mr. V.Thangavelu
THIS POST OF Mr. V.Thangavelu DO CONTAIN MANY VALUABLE SCIENTIFIC FACTS.
BUT ALSO CONTAINS SERIOUS ERRORS - WHICH WILL MAKE US TO TAKE POSITIONS AGAINST CHITHTHIRAI TAMIL NEW YEAR.
IF THESE ERRORS ARE WANTEDLY DONE TO GLORIFY THE NEW NEW YEAR DECISION, THEN THIS CAN BE THE BIGGEST SIN IN THE UNIVERSE.
USING FALSE SCIENTIFIC INTERPRETATIONS A FALSE DECISION IS GLORIFIED BY MANY AND EVEN EDUCATED PEOPLE FALL PREY FOR THESE FALSE PROPAGANDA.
REAL FACTS:
(1) For the people living in the northern hemisphere of the earth. (Most of the world population lives in the northern hemisphere. We are in the northern hemisphere.)
DAY WILL BE LONGER FROM MARCH22 TO SEPTEMBER 22 (from Spring Equinox to Autumn Equinox)
July 22 has the longest day time and December 22 has the shortest day time.
THIS POST OF Mr. V.Thangavelu. SAYS THE EXACTLY OPP SITE AS TRUTH AND DERIVES MUCH SUPPORT FOR THE NEW NEW YEAR CONCEPT.
(2) The explanation given for drifting of the equinox is based on accurate celestial data available now as against ancient data. But whatever drifting is said for Chiththirai 1 is applicable for Thai 1 also. These dates are exactly three months apart. How can we fix Thai 1 as Uththiraayanam without accounting for the three weeks drifting (which actually occurs on December 22 nowadays and not on Jan 14) and count the drifting only for Chiththirai 1?
BEWARE OF PEOPLE WHO APPLY MILK FOR ONE EYE AND CHUNNAAMBU FOR THE OTHER EYE.
(3)THIS POST OF Mr. V.Thangavelu SAYS:
////There is reference in Thamil Sangam literature to the celebration of Thai Neeradal, but there is absolutely no reference to Chiththirai New Year in ancient literature! ////
A TOTAL FAULT!
Iravatham Mahadevan mentioned that Chiththirai 1 as new year is in accordance with Tamil marabu.
Thai neeraadal is mentioned as neeraadal. Not as newyear. But the six seasons of Tamilnadu with applicable months were formulated by ancient literature. This is the real Tamil culture and these seasons are relevant even today. The first season is ILaveanil and belongs to the months of Mid April and to Mid June, Chiththirai and Vaikaasi.
Th ease six seasons are in the hearts of Tamil folks including me. The four seasons of English or of the North India never comes to my mind and also for almost all Tamil folks.
So Thai 1 as year beginning is against our ancient six season culture as this splits one season into two(munpani). We will have one munmunpani and one pinmunpani. Who wants to open a year in an half-split season?
AND STILL THERE ARE MORE REASONS TO HAVE CHITHTHIRAI AS OUR NEW YEAR DAY.
Sandeep, please refer my previous mail in this thread.Here are my view points:
IT IS MY DUTY TO WARN ALL THE FRIENDS HERE THAT PLEASE DO NOT GET CARRIED AWAY BY THE FALSE PROPAGANDA VIGOROUSLY DONE BY THIS POST OF Mr. V.Thangavelu
THIS POST OF Mr. V.Thangavelu DO CONTAIN MANY VALUABLE SCIENTIFIC FACTS.
BUT ALSO CONTAINS SERIOUS ERRORS - WHICH WILL MAKE US TO TAKE POSITIONS AGAINST CHITHTHIRAI TAMIL NEW YEAR.
IF THESE ERRORS ARE WANTEDLY DONE TO GLORIFY THE NEW NEW YEAR DECISION, THEN THIS CAN BE THE BIGGEST SIN IN THE UNIVERSE.
USING FALSE SCIENTIFIC INTERPRETATIONS A FALSE DECISION IS GLORIFIED BY MANY AND EVEN EDUCATED PEOPLE FALL PREY FOR THESE FALSE PROPAGANDA.
REAL FACTS:
(1) For the people living in the northern hemisphere of the earth. (Most of the world population lives in the northern hemisphere. We are in the northern hemisphere.)
DAY WILL BE LONGER FROM MARCH22 TO SEPTEMBER 22 (from Spring Equinox to Autumn Equinox)
July 22 has the longest day time and December 22 has the shortest day time.
THIS POST OF Mr. V.Thangavelu. SAYS THE EXACTLY OPPOSITE AS TRUTH AND DERIVES MUCH SUPPORT FOR THE NEW NEW YEAR CONCEPT.
(2) The explanation given for drifting of the equinox is based on accurate celestial data available now as against ancient data. But whatever drifting is said for Chiththirai 1 is applicable for Thai 1 also. These dates are exactly three months apart. How can we fix Thai 1 as Uththiraayanam without accounting for the three weeks drifting (which actually occurs on December 22 nowadays and not on Jan 14) and count the drifting only for Chiththirai 1?
BEWARE OF PEOPLE WHO APPLY MILK FOR ONE EYE AND CHUNNAAMBU FOR THE OTHER EYE.
(3)THIS POST OF Mr. V.Thangavelu SAYS:
////There is reference in Thamil Sangam literature to the celebration of Thai Neeradal, but there is absolutely no reference to Chiththirai New Year in ancient literature! ////
A TOTAL FAULT!
Iravatham Mahadevan mentioned that Chiththirai 1 as new year is in accordance with Tamil marabu.
Thai neeraadal is mentioned as neeraadal. Not as newyear. But the six seasons of Tamilnadu with applicable months were formulated by ancient literature. This is the real Tamil culture and these seasons are relevant even today. The first season is ILaveanil and belongs to the months of Mid April and to Mid June, Chiththirai and Vaikaasi.
These six seasons are in the hearts of Tamil folks including me. The four seasons of English or of the North India never comes to my mind and also for almost all Tamil folks.
So Thai 1 as year beginning is against our ancient six season culture as this splits one season into two(munpani) . We will have one munmunpani and one pinmunpani. Who wants to open a year in an half-split season?
AND STILL THERE ARE MORE REASONS TO HAVE CHITHTHIRAI AS OUR NEW YEAR DAY.