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  • Hi Sps
    sorry about it.
    we had a round like this earlier and madam seethalakshmi put an end
    to it.
    I guess we have to stop these personal details especially if
    sensitive issues though they seem juicy.
  • BOSS,

    I am really sorry if I caused Discomfort.

    Needed guidelines for ENLIGHTENING myself.

    very best regards ..

    That Guidelines to Nataraj to Group KALKI'S TEMPLE ..

    IT IS WONDERFUL SUGGESTION..

    WE CAN TAKE UP WITH STATE TOURISM MINISTRY AS WELL WITH A GUIDE-
    BOOK !

    VEY BEST REGARDS / sps
  • Venkatesh and all, I completely agree we should not
    discuss personal matters and even more so if any of
    the concerned people are alive. I admit to be guilty
    of bringing up such subjects once in a while, although
    it has been related to clarifying certain misnomers
    and beliefs.

    My sincere apologies,

    Malathi
  • For what it's worth.. here is my 2 paisa worth:

    I believe that this group has a collection of individuals which is quite
    rare to encounter in other groups. I do believe
    that the people here are mature enough to discuss anything in the proper
    spirit. As Voltaire is supposed to have said words to the effect: " I do not
    agree with what you say but I shall defend to the death your right to say
    it".. I believe that we ought to follow that principle.. Self censorship
    never did appeal to me... that is the problem with us Indians.. we prefer to
    sweep "unpalatable" and "sensitive" topics under the carpet rather than
    having free and frank discussions about it :)

    Again might not even be worth 2 paise!
  • Arun ,yes I see your two cents, thank you. Regardless
    I think it is important to respect decorum of the
    group and also to realize there may be people who are
    still alive and related to matters we are discussing,
    not that celebrities are not used to these matters but
    we don't want to contribute to that.

    That is all,

    Malathi
  • MSS and Kalki are gems in our world. Any topic that kindles their
    personal lives is definitely sensitive, many may not like that either.
    In my opinion, I suggest we keep off discussing personal lives of
    people, living or dead.

    As far as rumors are concerned, any famous personality is bound to have
    rumors, we should be mature enough to ignore them and move on.
  • > never did appeal to me... that is the problem with us Indians.. we
    prefer to
    > sweep "unpalatable" and "sensitive" topics under the carpet rather
    than
    > having free and frank discussions about it :)
    >

    hi arun

    Tamizhil kurangu pun enbaargal - dont want to add more.
  • TWo more cents, we have to respect forum decorum. So
    it is wise not to discuss those matters since most
    people do not seem to prefer.

    Second, regarding what Arun said, there is difference
    between cheap sensational gossip and talking about
    things that happened between people who are no longer
    alive, to clarify certain false impressions we have or
    may have had. I am not sure for example if anything
    bad was said about either Kalki or MSS here.

    But we want to keep certain things we know may not
    have been true because we are scared to think
    otherwise it is better not to go there at all, also if
    it offends people.

    Thanks.
  • I have no hesitation in doubling it to 4 paise.

    It is acceptable if the unpalatable bit is relevant to the topic under
    discussion. Unfortunately, the thread does not stay on course, and
    virtually branches out like cancer into a free for all. Our mature group
    has managed not to fall into this trap as the members voluntarily hold
    the reins and close the thread or correct the course.

    In its present form, I don't see any danger to our group.

    Sampath
  • ... that is the problem with
    > > us Indians.. we prefer to
    > > sweep "unpalatable" and "sensitive" topics under the
    > > carpet rather than
    > > having free and frank discussions about it :)

    arun


    Hi
    i happened to shall I say co-ordinate when muruganandam of our group
    wrote a biography of FEROZE GANDHI
    the book was released in the book fair and has been immidietly
    noticed by a wide section of the press. the hindu, mangayar malar,
    tukluk and dinamalar wrote about it in the previous weeks.

    when muruganandam had pooled his research on feroze from different
    sources we were sort of surprised that such an interesting charecter
    had been ignored by biographers.
    things about feroze could be divided as two

    really good things which were in contrast to the rulers attitudes
    after him
    really bad things that were embarrasing to the same rulers who were
    related to him.

    but muruganandam did a real good balancing act .
    but then a biography or a biographical discussion of a person should
    be entire- good bad or ugly not only to be intereting but also
    truthfull. otherwise wont it seem like a 5th class history book.
    akbar kulam vettinaar, akbar maram nattaar etc,

    yes arun you are right.but our group tends to steer clear of
    contreversial topics because it paves the way for more discussions
    and more info spread.
    venketesh
  • Hi,

    I agree with Arun that discussions within the group
    should not be self-censored without a strong reason
    (and maybe when posting them in the archives we can do
    some pruning).
  • >
    > but the issue is, who decides which topics are
    > controversial?
    >
    > Arul.

    yes arul. the moderators decide based on the temparature thats risen
    and could be detrimental.
    beleive me, we have had very contreversial topics discussed here
    with no interference from the moderators if you see in the archives.
    a discussion based on madans opinion expressed on lack of sources
    for indian history was by far the most widely debated.
    i can assure you that the argument fizzled out on its own.
    on the other hand the aryan dravidian, or the plusses and minuses of
    british rule are topics that come up frequently and have to be put
    out with a stern word from sps.
    venketesh




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  • Malathi,
    My 2 paise (way lower than 2 cents you see :)) was not about "sensational
    news" or about "Gossip". Rather it was about expressing views on any and all
    issues.. say such as the caste "crap" etc. People have opinions. We may
    disagree with the opinions but just because someone has opinions contrary to
    ours does not mean that we ought not to talk about it. If we stop talking
    about things because "someone" might be sensitive to them, we probably have
    to avoid a whole bunch of topics. Someone or the other is always going to
    get annoyed by something..

    However, I do agree with Venketesh that, on the whole, this group seems to
    be able to debate things quite dispassionately.
  • Arun, I agree with you, am really young to this group
    so not sure what the past has been.

    In my personal experience *most* friends I know are
    like what you describe, they have some opinions of
    people particulary and feel offended if others bring
    up something else, even though it may be true. In
    other words it is rather commonplace to say certain
    things are 'sensitve' and avoid discussing them. Just
    to give you an example, I introduced Sivagamiyin
    Sabatham to my western educated 17 year old niece, she
    can read Tamil reasonably well. Once while we were
    among some older people and discussing the novel, my
    niece wanted to know if Sivakaami and Narasimhan had
    an affair or were they only planning to get married.
    What is wrong with that question? In my opinion
    nothing at all. But most people got offended and asked
    her not to talk about 'sensitive matters' like that,
    one person told her it is not in our culture to make
    things black and white (ok maybe i can give some
    credit to that).

    But sensitivities are often like that. Sivakami and
    Narasimhan are fictional. We don't even want to
    discuss their personal matters. Forget about real
    people - and I don't mean talking like yellow
    journalism who had an affair with who and why and on
    and on. Sometimes what I believe may not be right
    about someone's character, real or fictional. Am I
    willing to accept that or just say I want to keep my
    opinion? Most people in our culture are sorry to say,
    the latter.

    It is 25 cents this time :))) sorry.
    Malathi

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