what constitutes a wonder of the world?
  • Hi
    in yesterdays's ponniyin selvan group meeting vijaykumar raised a
    point of the Taj Mahal not evoking the same feelings as the big
    temple.
    there are people who feel that the taj should be in the list of the
    new wonders and some like "gnaani" in todays anandavikadan comparing
    the taj mahal to ilayaraja's music or kannadasans songs as all being
    wonders.(I however Think the present debate should be only about
    structural wonders)
    so what then constitutes a wonder?
    venketesh?
  • some trivia about the original 7 wonders

    of the 7 ancient wonders 2 were in egypt, 2 in turkey, one in iraq
    and 2 in greece

    only one survives today( the great pyramids)

    The list that we know today was compiled in the Middle Ages—by which
    time many of the sites were no longer in existence
    four were destroyed by earthquakes, one by deliberate arson and one
    dismantled by christian rulers for religious reasons.
    mahatma gandhi "is said to have listed" The Seven Blunders of the
    World

    The seven blunders are:
    Wealth without work
    Pleasure without conscience
    Knowledge without character
    Commerce without morality
    Science without humanity
    Worship without sacrifice
    Politics without principle

    venketesh
  • hi sir

    with due respects to the taj - for me a true wonder - comes from a
    feeling fo awe, a deep sense of respect, something that leaves a
    lasting memory in you for a lifetime.

    For me the aura associated with the taj and the reason why its being
    voted for ...aka a symbol of eternal love - is itself not convincing
    enough / based on substantial evidence available to the contrary.

    Secondly as an architectural wonder ... working in stone to working in
    marble/sandstone arent the same.

    can you compare the regal splendor of our granite temples standing in
    all their glory for a 1000 years despite facing the wrath of invading
    hordes vs a greying tomb.

    our oranately carved stone pillars to the delicate inlay work of the
    taj.

    an elaborately carved yazhi governed entrance vs the placid white steps
    of the taj.

    i would rather vote for angkor - the largest temple complex in the
    world or if national interest still pushes then vote for our own big
    temple - for its grandeur, for its spendour, for its sheer scale n
    enormity, for the triumph of the human enterprise, for its longivity,
    for its craftsmanship, for its beauty ...just think of the first time
    you stood in front of the vimanam - taking in the sight, goose bumps
    making the hair stand on its end...its a surreal experience...which the
    taj never gave me.
  • Dear Vijay
    Taj whether is a symbol of love or whatever takes your breath away when you walk in....
    The reason why our temples havent had th same publicity comes from the following reasons
    1. They are places of worship not allowing every one to see the glory
    2. the british promoted mughal art over hindu art as sexualism was part of hindu sculptures...which was too much for a 17th -18th century european....it all started with Kajuraho
    3. Except Periyakoil and GKC and mammalapuram which were under ASI the rest have had a colourful renovation by the late CM thiru MGR which takes away the antiquity who will believe the madurai meeankshi temple and srirangam are 100s of years old???
  • Hello Sir,

    > Taj whether is a symbol of love or whatever takes your breath away when you walk in....
    > The reason why our temples havent had th same publicity comes from the following reasons
    > 1. They are places of worship not allowing every one to see the glory
    > 2. the british promoted mughal art over hindu art as sexualism was part of hindu sculptures...which was too much for a 17th -18th century european....it all started with Kajuraho
    > 3. Except Periyakoil and GKC and mammalapuram which were under ASI the rest have had a colourful renovation by the late CM thiru MGR which takes away the antiquity who will believe the madurai meeankshi temple and srirangam are 100s of years old???

    ===========================================================

    My feeling is exactly the opposite. When I went to Taj, it was wow, i
    could not talk for a few minutes watching it from the gate. I mean, it
    was similar feeling when I see Periyakoil, this really took my breath
    away. I don't think we should undermine a splendid work just because
    it is mogul.
  • Dear Siva
    what i really meant was the magnificence of Taj really hits you especially when you walk past all those hawkers,urine smelling alleys and those sligtly clean gardens and enter the gate you are mesmerised...especially if its a full moon day...

    Having seen it twice
    i appreciated the impact it has on a first timer when I visited it this time with my wife and kids they were spellbound

    with BT I have alwyas explored bits of it from the age of 9 and have grown with it and its collossal
  • Always counted among the man-made marvels of the world by its
    admirers, the Taj Mahal on Sunday found pride of place in a new list
    of seven wonders polled by people around the globe.

    Following are the new Seven Wonders of the World:
    The Colosseum, Rome
    The Pyramid of Chichen Itza, Mexico
    Machu Picchu, Peru
    Taj Mahal, India
    Statue of the Christ Redeemer, Brazil
    Petra, Jordan
    The Great Wall of China

    other than the brazilian statue I guess taj is the yungest of the lot
    Among the places left out were Accropolis in Athens, The Statues of
    Easter Island , Cambodia Angkar, Hagia Sophia in Turkey, Eiffel
    Tower in Paris, Statue of Liberty in New York and Russian Kremlin
    and St Basil's Cathedral.
  • hi siva

    at heart everyone is an art connosieur...the perfect proportions,
    the delicate interplay of light and shade - our mind is programmed
    to enjoy these. My words on the taj were not to belittle it in
    anyway, check out these pictures

    http://www.geraldbrimacombe.com/India.htm


    but more to give vent to the anger on seeing hundreds of more ( as
    per my own opinion) brilliant works - that are being forgotten / not
    promoted.

    personally happy that the taj is in, but hope that doesnt mean that
    Taj is the foremost of all wonders ---aka it has beaten out angkor
    or to that fact even our BT, its just populism /popularity of a
    publicity gimmick. so just give it that much,,

    vj
  • or to that fact even our BT, its just populism /popularity of a
    publicity gimmick. so just give it that much,,
    ===============================================
    Exactly, me to opine the same.
  • Very true sir....a pity, makeup is applied to hide belmishes, to
    make old look young....possibly they applied the same logic little
    realising old is gold.... vellikku tanga mulam poosalam, aanal intha
    moodargal vairathaivida, vaidooriythathai vida vilai mathippila
    kalai porulgalukku color mulaam poosi athan mathippai kuraithu
    vittargal/azhithuvittargal....its really a case of kurangin kayyil
    poomaalai.

    i witnessed this sad comedy - at tiruvanamalai temple couple of
    years ago - the priceless pillars were being given a make over -
    some local picaso had chosen a mossy dark green color for one hall,
    a light sea blue for another - and that too applied such a thick
    coat - that you could hardly make out anything - the ornaments, the
    delicate work on the garments etc etc were all clouded in this paint
    screen .....ayyyyyo, ak kar silaiyai sethukka ach sirpi ep padu
    pattuiruppano, imagine the pain passing through his veins as he
    delicately brought forth his years of knowledge filtered though
    generations by word of mouth, passing through his blistered hands,
    into making this poetry in stone....ak kallum antha padaipalliyin
    uzaippirku aatharama puvi irukkum varai nirka aval poondu pala
    nootrandugal ninrum paarporai negizhvittum vanthirukkum...naduvil
    vandthavargal therindu sidaitargal - avargal virothigal -
    pagaivargal mannikalaam, im moodargalo ...ivargalai enna venru
    solvathu - sabippathu. ithai parthal sila murai ivai irukkum
    idathhil irunthu sithaivathai vida engo rockfeller museumil irunthu
    vazvathae mel.

    vj




    >>>>>
    Except Periyakoil and GKC and mammalapuram which were under ASI the
    rest have had a colourful renovation by the late CM thiru MGR which
    takes away the antiquity who will believe the madurai meeankshi
    temple and srirangam are 100s of years old???
    > Regards
    > Sri
    >

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