indian history
  • Indian History

    Europeans in India
    India was a British colony. The British left behind them in India a strong imprint of their philosophy and culture and even today it is evident that English which is a foreign language is the most important and respected language in India. But the British were not the only Europeans to arrive in India and have their imprint. Since ancient period even before the beginning of the Christian era there were relations between Europeans and Indians. The main Europeans to arrive in ancient India were Greeks. The Greeks are referred to in ancient Indian history as Yavanas. Even the most famous ancient Greek conqueror, Alexander the Great, arrived in India. But actually he arrived up to the present India-Pakistan border. But there were other Greeks who arrived in India and established kingdoms. Many of these Greek communities later on adopted Hinduism and integrated in the Indian caste system. Even today there are communities in Kashmir who claim to be of Greek origin. Not all
    Greeks arrived in India to conquer it. There were also Greek scientists who arrived in India for scientific research, especially in astronomy and mathematics.
    Later on other Europeans arrived in India because of commercial reasons. The Indian sub-continent was then world famous for its spices. But when the Muslim Ottoman Empire of Turkey ruled the Middle East, they caused lots of problems to European Christian merchants who tried to pass through their land. Therefore the Europeans tried to find other routes to reach India. And so accidentally Christopher Columbus found the continent of America. Columbus tried to get to India while sailing westwards from Europe. Columbus presumed that because the earth is round he would eventually get to India while sailing westwards, instead he found the continent of America whose existence was not known then to the Europeans. Columbus thought that he had arrived in India and called the natives Indians.
    These Europeans at first requested from the local rulers permission to trade in their entities. Later on they requested from the local rulers permission to build factories. After they built factories they requested to build forts around these factories to defend them from pirates and other dangers. Then they requested to recruit local Indians to serve as guards and soldiers in these forts and so on they slowly created their own armies. And so one of the European power's representative, the British East India Company, became the ruler of India.
    The British control of India was a result of several factors. The Portuguese, who along with their business tried to enforce Roman Catholicism on the Indians were defeated by local rulers sometimes in collaboration with Protestant European powers. But still the Portuguese remained in India with small pockets. Their main center in India was Goa. The Dutch, who had holds in south India and the Danes, who had holds in east India, left India for their own reasons. The two main European powers that remained in India were British and French. These two powers tried different ways to control India and to defeat each other. Each of these European powers sometimes collaborated with local Indian rulers to defeat the other European power. Eventually the British became the rulers of India. But the French like the Portuguese remained in India with small pockets and both these powers remained in India even after the British left India in 1947.
    The British East India Company was actually a trading company and it received from the British crown charter to trade with the Indian sub-continent. They arrived in India for spice trade in 1600. Like other European powers that arrived in India, they at first requested from the local rulers permission to trade in their entities. The British East India Company was more sophisticated than other Europeans who arrived in India. This company offered different sophisticated agreements to the different Indian ruling families, which made them the actual managers of the Indian kingdoms. They sometimes used their army against local rulers and annexed their territories with the result that there was lot of embitterment among the Indians against the British. After the 'Indian Mutiny' of 1857, the British Crown took back the charter from the East India Company and ruled India directly through a Viceroy. The British gave India independence in 1947, but its last soldier left India
    eventually in 1950. The French also left India in 1950. The Portuguese were the last to leave India in 1961.
    Even though the European powers arrived in India for commercial reasons, they also started converting local Indians to Christianity. Of the five European powers the Portuguese were most enthusiastic to baptize Indians. The Portuguese inspired by the Pope��s order to baptize people around the world not only fought wars against the local Indian rulers, but also they tried to enforce their Roman Catholic prayers on Syrian Christians who were in India before the modern European powers arrived in India After many wars the Portuguese were defeated by local rulers and they had only one big pocket of control in India, Goa. Goa was made the capital of Portuguese colonies in the eastern hemisphere. The Portuguese not only fought the Indian rulers, but they also fought against other European powers in India especially Dutch and English. Many Portuguese churches in Kerala were converted into English and Dutch churches after they were captured by these powers.
    The English missionaries started acting in India at a much later period. The British arrived in India in 1600 and they allowed the missionaries to enter their territory only from 1813. The British allowed different churches to establish missionaries in their territory. The missionaries didn��t only spread Christianity, but they also did humanitarian deeds giving the needy the basic necessities of life like food, clothes and shelter. The missionaries also built schools in India and many of them exist even today and have Christian or European originated names.
    The British church missionaries succeeded less than the Portuguese in converting Indians to Christianity, but unlike the Portuguese who tried to enforce Christianity, these Protestant converts
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  • 2,300-year-old artefacts may change Ashoka-Buddhist history The Organiser, July 9 2006 Issue BHUBANESWAR, India -- Orissa Institute of Maritime and South East Asian Studies (OIMSEAS) has unearthed some 2,300-year-old artefacts at Jajpur district in Orissa, which, it claimed, could change some historical narratives on the Ashokan period.

    The description of Chinese pilgrim Hieun-Tsang about Ashoka that he had constructed 10 stupas in Odra country where Buddha had preached may come true.
    Earlier, historians refused to accept the narrative. We have already analysed five stupas and found three more similar structures,�� OIMSEAS Director Debaraj Pradhan told mediapersons here. He said a huge inscribed monolithic stupa along with other remnants of Buddhist establishments had been detected on top of Panturi hill in Jajpur district.
    The current explorations and excavations are unique since nowhere in India will you find old artefacts in such a small area,�� Pradhan said. The stupas were found at Langudi, Tarapur, Deuli Kayama hills, Neulipur, Bajragiri, Kantigadia and Panturi.
    The organisation had extensively surveyed the Brahmani-Kelua river valley since 1996 to explore and excavate Buddhist sites. It had excavated Langudi hill site and discovered ancient Pushpagiri Vihara, an Ashokan stupa, two rare statues believed to be that of Emperor Ashoka himself, besides 54 rock-cut votive stupas, five Dhyani Buddha statues and remains of two monasteries.
    The excavation of the fort of Radhanagar indicated that it could be the ancient capital of Kalinga, Pradhan, also the curator of state archaeology, said.
    Either it could be Dantapura mentioned in Ceylonese literature Datha-Ddhatu-Vamsa or Tosali mentioned in special Dhauli rock edict of Ashoka,�� he said.
    The artefacts discovered from last year��s excavation established that Radhanagar or Tosali was a fort city. But interesting findings of this year indicated that it could be a port city.
    The discovery of Roman Bullae (an earthen ornament) and Roman Rowlletted pottery suggested that the place had connections with Rome. And it could not have happened, had Tosali not been a port city,�� Pradhan said. He, however, made it clear that only around five per cent of the total excavation had been completed.
    Once we excavate the entire archaeologically-rich area in Jajpur district, we would be able to come to a concrete conclusion,�� he said. Besides discovery of Ashokan period artefacts, archaeologists have also stumbled upon many antiques, which implies that the whole area could have been a hub of religious activities.
    The current excavation also threw up broken Buddhist images, votive stupas and collection of pottery remains from the surface near Vajragiri.
    Pradhan said Vajragiri could have had close cultural relations with Japan because the highest temple of Japan was the Vajragiri temple (Kongobu-Ji) at Kuito, the ancient capital of that country.
    Interestingly, at the foot of the present Vajragiri a big ancient village Kotpur was situated, he said and added that more research is necessary to establish the connection.
    The Vajragiri excavation had yielded one piece of stone trident, designed religious lamps 12 pieces of heavy iron rods and two pieces of conch in good condition.
    Pradhan said most of the inscriptional evidence and its photographs have been sent to Dr K.V. Ramesh, retired director of epigraphy at Mysore, for deciphering.
    The present inscriptional evidence may prove the association of Buddha with Kayama hill in Kalinga country in his lifetime,�� he said.
    Meanwhile, Orissa Culture Minister Suryanarayan Patro has directed Jajpur District Collector Aurobindo Padhi to visit all hills identified by OIMSEAS and involve eminent historians in the research work.
  • Aryans and Dravidians - A controversial issue

    The most basic division of the Indian society is of Aryans and
    Dravidians. According to this division, nearly 72% of Indians are
    Aryans and 28% are Dravidians.
    The north Indians are the descendants of Aryans and the south
    Indians are Dravidians.
    The languages spoken in five states of south India are considered
    Dravidian languages and most of the languages spoken in the north
    are considered Aryan languages.

    The general script of the Aryan languages is different from the
    general script of Dravidian languages. The Indians also distinguish
    themselves by the general north Indian accent and general south
    Indian accent.

    According to general Indian legend, the Aryans arrived in north
    India somewhere from Iran and southern Russia at around 1500 BC.
    Before the Aryans, the Dravidian people resided in India. The Aryans
    disregarded the local cultures.

    They began conquering and taking control over regions in north India
    and at the same time pushed the local people southwards or towards
    the jungles and mountains in north India. According to this
    historical fact the general division of Indian society is made.
    North Indians are Aryans and south Indians are Dravidians. But this
    division isn't proper because of many reasons.

    Many Indians immigrated from one part of India to other parts of
    India and not all local people of north India were pushed southwards
    by the Aryans. Some stayed and served the Aryans and others moved to
    live in the forests and the jungles of north India.

    Before the arrival of the Aryans there were also other communities
    in India like Sino-Mongoloids and Austroloids. There were also other
    foreign immigrations and invaders who arrived in India, from time to
    time.

    There are many that completely doubt that there was ever any Aryan
    invasion in India. This skepticism is based on the dating of the
    Aryan invasion of India and the fact that Hinduism and the caste
    system are believed to have been established as the result of the
    meetings between the intruding Aryans and original residents of
    India, the Dravidians.


    The caste system is believed to have been established by the Aryans.
    The fair skinned Aryans who occupied parts of India established the
    caste system, which allowed only them to be the priests (Brahman),
    aristocracy (Kshatria) and the businessmen (Vaisia) of the society.
    Below them in hierarchy were the Sudras who consisted of two
    communities.

    One community was of the locals who were subdued by the Aryans and
    the other were the descendants of Aryans with locals. In Hindu
    religious stories there are many wars between the good Aryans and
    the dark skinned demons and devils.

    The different Gods also have dark skinned slaves. There are stories
    of demon women trying to seduce good Aryan men in deceptive ways.
    There were also marriages between Aryan heroes and demon women. Many
    believe that these incidences really occurred in which, the gods and
    the positive heroes were people of Aryan origin.

    And the demons, the devils and the dark skinned slaves were in fact
    the original residence of India whom the Aryans coined as monsters,
    devil, demons and slaves. Normally the date given to Aryan invasion
    is around 1500 BC. But according to Hinduism experts some of the
    events in Hinduism occurred much earlier. Some of the events like
    the great war in the Mahabharta epic is believed to have occurred
    (based on astronomical research) 7000 years ago.

    According to this Hindu experts the word Aryan is a
    misinterpretation of the original Sanskrit word, Arya. Arya means
    pure or good in Sanskrit. In the holy Vedas the good people were
    called Arya. Some of the European scholars of Indian culture in the
    19th century were Germans. These German scholars who found that
    Swastika was also a holy symbol among the Hindus distorted, the word
    Arya to Aryan.

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  • Hi sathish

    though the aryan theory generally seems to have been discarded there
    were many races which came in thro the hindu kush passes and settled
    in the indo gangetic plains.

    last week on a trip to himachal pradesh in a remote plains district (
    compared to the more famous hill stations) i saw and interacted with
    the locals.

    some of them looked perfectly like europeans.
    the eyes, the complexions the facial features etc.

    so a large scale dna test is what can solve the issue.
    they did one in china/ mongolia and determined a large chunck of
    their population was desecended from one person.

    I think we should look at the history of egypt as a parallel to ours.
    only when there is trouble or inhospitable conditions at home big
    sets of people move out.
    the Hittite tribe like wise moved out the central asia and conquered
    the pharohs with ease( and demonstrated tot the world the utility of
    the wheel)
    hittites are considered to be aryan tridbes too.
    venketesh
  • sir..

    interaction with the locals aa???? engeyo idikkuthey.... evvalavu
    thalli ninaalum idikkuthey....

    anyway satish, u mentioned a very good point... but the problem is
    that when the group discussess controversial topics, people take it
    as a personal issue.. that is why lot of people refrain from
    replying..

    anyway, lets wait for the response from other group members

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