Cheras and Kerala
  • Dear all
    We read that the west coast was part of tamilnadu
    when did Cheras become Kerala and a separate entity
  • Dear Sri
    around 1320 when malik and tha khilgis had ran thro tamilnadu the
    only prevailing power here was the cheras headed by ravivarman
    kulasekaran.
    an ambitious king he laid stake to the pandyan throne also, on the
    basis that pandyas were his maternal grandparents--
    in fact he crowned himself as the pandyan monarch on the banks of
    river vegavati.

    I think the dissassociation began after that. there were no cholas
    to speak of. the pandyas had moved further south to tenkasi. madurai
    was with the muslims. so i think the cheras decided to stay in the
    hills
    perhaps when the naiks came they could not co ordinate with them.
    but the active chera legend is that there were 3 men one a nayanmar,
    one an alwar and one -an early convert to islam and emigrant to mecca
    all in the royal family of kerala.but this was all in 8th century ad
    .
    venketesh




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  • Any idea why tamils are called 'Paandis' in Kerala? If the answer is
    offensive for the group, please send me a personal email. just curious.
  • That was probably we belonged to the Pandian kingdom.
    It is like calling "Madarasis" for all Indians from
    the south today.
  • True.

    But coming back to Chera history, I think we have to look at origins
    of monarchy itself in Tamil country, where the tribal/rural chiefs
    like Ai, Velir etc., were ruling the country.

    I think the earliest rulers of present kerala region would have been
    such chieftains probably Ai.

    Pre-history - Jumping to the aryan expansion theory, we can see many
    rishis being credited with the exploration/colonisation of new
    regions, for eg., agastya. So the myth that parasurama created the
    kerala country might have some truth related to such explorations,
    also their is a possibility of sea waters receding in a natural
    phenomenon during the same age. Often myth has some underlying
    truths. perhaps mytho-geologist should check whether marine fossils
    are present in W.ghats.

    That the Mu-vendar came to be be by slowly gathering authority with
    the support of such chieftains or supressing them makes political
    evolutionary sense.

    I think Kerala per se must have become a Chera country during the
    Kalabhra rule, were rulers of Karur were pushed out of tamil country
    proper.

    So that by Sangam age, we have Seralaadan and Senguttavan in that
    area.

    But evidences of Cheras seem sparse compared to Chozhas and Pandiyas.
    Sthanuravi of Vijayalaya/Adithya times. Kulasekhara the Azhvar.
    Cheraman Perumal. The ambiguous chera who went to Mecca. couple of
    Bhaskararavi varmans and thiruvadis. And finally ofcourse the one who
    fought against Muslim invaders.

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