RRs inscriptions : Kuthalam (Msg 5844 reposted / Edited) / near Papanasam
  • SEMBIYAN MAHADEVIYAR,

    Amarapujangan name is very much familiar to PS fans !


    Sps
    umakku enna mor/ vennai viyaabaaramaa?

    like in abirami anthathi
    thathiyuru maththil sulalum en aavi...
    ( in a ceaseless churn, revolves my soul)

    sps is churning all info available ceaselessly. its throwing up
    fascinating bits of info. great leads to follow.
    fantastic. so it may not have been kalki's imagination atall.
    and all the yearning and love the grand dame has for her foster son
    in ps may have been true too.

    come on sps pattaiya kilappunga.
    venketesh












    >
    >
    > In the 2nd piece .. Kopparakesari .. Uthama .. Yr missing ..
    >
    > In the 10 piece (21 to 28 lines are) worth noticing :
    >
    > " ... xx than cheygavendru ith
    > thirukkattrali edupithu ivergal
    > ..... tha Shree UTHAMA
    > CHOZHARAI THIRUVAYIRU VAAYTHA
    > Udaya pirattiyar SEMBIYAN
    > MAHADEVIYAR Korajakesari
    > Yaandu 7 vathil
    > Arulichey .... "
    >
    > Meaning :
    >
    > The Grants were made by Sembiyan madevi in Uthama's period.
    Rajaraja is
    > regularising the grants. He has reproduced the inscriptions of
    > Uthama upto
    > the 10th piece :
    > In the inscriptions of Uthama, it was recited as : UTHAMA
    CHOAHARRAI
    > THIRUVAYIRU VAAYTHA SEMBIAN MAHADEVIYAR.
    >
    > In subsequent pieces, Rajarajan denotes her as "Ippirattiyar" ..
    >
    > Therefore, the famous quote of 'Uthama Chozhar Thiruvayiruthitha
    > Sembiyan
    > Mahadeviyar " is first recorded by UTHAMA CHOZHA himself !
    >
    > There is also inscriptional evidence that (periya) Pazhuvettarayar
    > and Sundara
    > Chozha are contempraries!
    >
    > fondly, sps
    >
  • Dear sps / venkat

    > fantastic. so it may not have been kalki's imagination atall.
    > and all the yearning and love the grand dame has for her foster son
    > in ps may have been true too.

    I see them as two different things.

    Kalki's imagination was that the character he created by name "Old
    mathuranthaka" later on becomes Amarabhujanka. There are no evidences
    to support this as of now. So the blind love of mahadevi to her foster
    son has to be left in the imaginary world of kalki and the present
    reference does not help to prove this to be true in any way.

    What we see here(in the fantastic reference provided by SPS) is a
    deity being consecreted in the chola regime under uttama chola by
    sembiyan mahadevi and the name of the deity is "Amarabhujanka devar".
    I was taken aback even while sps posted this for the first time.

    There are many references in which a deity or the temple itself is
    consecreted in the name of ruling king. The great big temple itself is
    a standing example in which deity is called "Raajarajeswaram udaiyar"

    But what is stunning is that the deity of this kuttalam temple is
    called by a ruling pandiyan king's name. No other amarabhujanka
    surfaces in the history. Only one.

    Thus, we have to take it that the pandiyan king is being honoured in
    some way or other in this temple by ruling chola regime. The king was
    alive during this event.

    What is more tantalizing is the fact that this amarabujanka is the
    very first one to be crushed by RRC proabably even before kanthaloor
    chalai. And he does'nt even bother to mention this in his meikeerthi !!

    The ONLY INSCRIPTIONAL EVIDENCE which provides information on
    amarabhujanka & RRC's victory over him is the thiruvalakadu copper
    plates !!


    >> Uttama's period being referred to as kali in thiruvalangadu plates

    We should keep in mind that this is a poet's view who lived in
    Rajendra chola's times. True that a number of temple building
    activities were undertaken in uttama chola's times - but what was the
    view in the RRC / RJC times about uttama's rule ?

    Contemporary evidences corraborate this: To provide an example: There
    are around 300 thalicheri pendirs being bought to big temple by RRC.
    All of them bore different titles of chola kings - "Adhithi",
    "Paranthaki", "Raajaraji", "Kandarathiti" etc - all the past kings
    were covered but one - ONLY ONE - name is missing. "UTTAMA CHOZHI" OR
    "MATHURANTHAKI" - The name of the king who just ruled 20 years before.
    Common people did not bother to keep this name.

    And this is just the tip of iceberg.
  • Hi Gokul


    though kalki brought us up on dramatic and democratic dosages of the
    flower boy becoming uthama, the real life uthama's reign too wasnt
    all that bad.

    I would always liken it to p.v narasimha rao's rule. when the history
    of independent india is written say half a century from now he would
    be rated the best prime minister we ever had.
    uthama's rule stabilised the cholas.the power deals that happened
    during his regime proved to each other that they could still get
    negotiated settlements within the family.
    uncle A( may still be alive)while nephew B rules.
    B's son B1 wants to take the throne but A's son also wants it.
    A's son take the throne and after him B's son B2 is crowned.

    must have involved a hell of a lot of negotiating to avoid washing
    of the family linen in public.


    in mario puzo's god father when the don said " here's a man I cant
    negotiate with" it means the man is marked for death.

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