I'm not sure how many are aware of this controversy. The Jatila parantaka inscriptions of thiruparamkundram cave temple clearly state that his wife took cave temples for Kaali - Ganapathy and JEYESTA devi. Today in the main san.sanctorum, Jeyshta has become murugan - the rest two gods are in tact.
The parangundram temple sung in thirumurugatruppadai could be a different parangundram or a different temple within parangundram.
Lord muruga is fully covered with kavachams that hide almost the whole of his body. Notice his feminine face carefully. And ask yourself why no abhishekams are performed to this lord and only the vel gets abhishekams inspite of moolavar being made of stone (Normally only sudhai sirpams will not get abhishekams).
Even in Marudhamalai, you can see the old temple (kundruthoradal ?) and the new muruga temple close to each other
what? the home town of nakkirar is not a murugan temple?
thats what I call the roots of a tue contreversy
where muruga reportedly married deivanai the first of his 6 homes now has nothing to do with him?
anyway sambanthar and sundarar sang about this tempe and call it by the same name.
sambanthar calls this parangkundrE
so the name must have been during his time
what time was this kalvettu ? the most famous kalvettu in this temple is about a rajakopalarayar diwan of the nawabs(?) wh fought against european invasion of this temple and fell from the gopuram in the war. his family has been given lands and that deed recorded in the temple kalvettu.
I'm in total sync with you on the murugan temple and parankundram connection since sangam times.
Interesting questions are :
* Is the parankundram near madhurai the paramkundram of ancient times ? (I think the current madurai is atleast the second one if not first)
* Is the muruga temple as we see today the old muruga temple ? We have very solid inscriptional evidence that this kudaivarai is a middle pandiya excavation. The paramkundram and umai andavar kudaivarais are both middle pandiyan excavations. Jatila parantaka's inscriptions are the earliest available in the temple. His minister and wife contribute to the temple if I am not mistaken. So the question is whether the current temple was the one sung by nakkerar (may not be).
But the worst is ofcourse the deity as we worship today is muruga or not.
This temple is a cave temple. So we can not go around the main statue. So they dont do the abishekam there. Per local legend, the power of the god there is in the spear ( because of killing of a giant ) so they do the abishekam only for the spear.
true many of the temples of today are not in the actual locations they were in my favourite- kapali temple in mylapore is one.
if we can find evidence that sambanthar or sundarar mentioned muruga in paramkundram( thats the same temple they sang about) then we can be sure. i was told sambanthar mentions a hill where muruga marries near aalavaai( madurai) but need to check up.
I think I will study the structure of the hill from books I have.
one thing I remember now is muslims call it sikandar malai because of a dargah on top of the hill>
Hi Gokul many interesting things are coming up about param kundram
its also called kOththittai( thittai- medu) . sundarar in his ten songs calls it by this name. in the last song calls it param kundru but if you are talking about the temple being changed in naik periods remember that arunagiri sang 25 of his best songs here soon after.we could look for clues in his songs
on the southern part of paramkundram hill pandya ,possibly 8th century AD one excavated cave mandapam and one room on the west
in the room there is a pudaippu sirpam of arthanaarishwarar on the south facing walls of this room beautiful sculptures are seen mainly nadaraja damaged beneath the waist above the nadaraja ganapathy and muruga statues also to the east of the nadaraja statue subramanya and deivayanai
on the west facing walls of the mandapam maravarman sundara pandyan the first( 1216-1238) inscription is there statues most propably damaged in hindu jain warring
sorry if the words sound telegraphic. i am translating from a book directly
> > It is said TIRUVENGADU BUDHAN (MERCURY) IS ALSO PANDYA MURUGA ! SPS
My exposure to pandiyan murugas is almost zero but I have seen some pallava and chola murugas as well as the muruga in kudaivarai in trichy. Features :
* Senni - MUST. No muruga without senni * No vel sculpted into most sculptures. * 4 hands * Sannaveram in most - not sure if this should be all.
> Tiruparankundram speaks of Sundara Pandian's insccriptions. > Srivilliputhur speaks of a Donee from Sundara Pandia who confirms > his grant at the occasion when SP performed his Vijaya / > Veerabishekam in Nandhipuram. sps >
This took me to the scene when kudavoil was actually explaining in full ecstacy the joy he had in finding the inscription. It was an evening in vayiram kaichi thoppu, Nandhipuram which is hard to forget.