Allur Sivan Kovil
  • On the way to Kulithalai, I went to Allur Sivan temple. Its an ancient Chola temple with lots of Kalvettu. it looks like abandonned. I loved these two Dwarapalakas. They show that they have been made during early Chola period since it has a Pallava touch in it.
  • Some more photos of Allur Sivan Kovil.
  • They show that they have been made
    during early Chola period since it has a Pallava touch in it.
    >


    Hi Sriram

    nice to see you can differentiate the eras based on sculpture.
    why dont you share with us salient points of difference
    vijay, you could join in too...


    venketesh
  • Hi Venkatesh,

    Thanks for your email. How I started comparing the statues of Pallavas with that of Cholas is that:

    1. Dwarapalakas of Pallavas are thin whereas Cholas are broad.
    2. The faces will be in oval shape with pallava sculptures. In cholas it will be round and broad.

    I think these are the major differences in Pallava & Chola scupltures.

    :)
  • Hi venkat

    Kathie would love this discussion. Anyways she can catch up when she is back home.

    Pallava temples can be easily distinguished by the trademark somaskanda panel ( sou - with , uma and skanda)in the rear of the sanctum.

    In terms of door guradians and not restricting to door guardians alone, pallava sculpture had a lazy elegance, can't find the right words ...maybe can quote from cricket.... Like viv richards walking in with his arrogant exaggerated swagger. The postures are not in anyway threatening but more like mocking, they are almost certainly on side profile ( which by itself is an achivement for that time. To be able to sculpt the feet like that..hmm how to explain, take khmer angkorian sculpture for instance, u will find even later sculptures with both feet pointing at a awkward angle). The best feature of pallava door guradians is the way they seem to hold their massive weapons... With the least effort ( check my post on mangadapttu on www.poetryinstone.in what a mace post) you would mostly find them with minimal clothing, jewellery and using playing with snakes.

    Compared to this, chola door guardians are using the same yardstick, like mathew hayden ..m massive, imposing, rigid. Creating a sense of awe and fear with their bulging eyes. They are more like gripping their weapons ready to strike. Plus they seem to have a myriad of creatures under them incl snake, rat, lizard, owl etc in sri's current selection. Ornamentation is more profound with crowns gaining prominence along with elaborate waist cloth, arm bands etc.

    Later pandya the ornamentation takes more precedence than style with elaborate crowns etc

    Maybe I will try and feature them all shortly. But my vote on anything related to stone sculpture is always with the pallavas.
  • Hi Vijay
    i have seen from some of your forwards that the pallava edifices
    often resemble huts
    did the transformation occur from the pallavas

    could you give a list of a few existing pre pallava structures?

    venketesh

    > Hi venkat
    >
    > Kathie would love this discussion. Anyways she can catch up when
    she is back home.
    >
    > Pallava temples can be easily distinguished by the trademark
    somaskanda panel ( sou - with , uma and skanda)in the rear of the
    sanctum.
    >
    > In terms of door guradians and not restricting to door guardians
    alone, pallava sculpture had a lazy elegance, can't find the right
    words ...maybe can quote from cricket.... Like viv richards walking
    in with his arrogant exaggerated swagger. The postures are not in
    anyway threatening but more like mocking, they are almost certainly
    on side profile ( which by itself is an achivement for that time. To
    be able to sculpt the feet like that..hmm how to explain, take khmer
    angkorian sculpture for instance, u will find even later sculptures
    with both feet pointing at a awkward angle). The best feature of
    pallava door guradians is the way they seem to hold their massive
    weapons... With the least effort ( check my post on mangadapttu on
    www.poetryinstone.in what a mace post) you would mostly find them
    with minimal clothing, jewellery and using playing with snakes.
    >
    > Compared to this, chola door guardians are using the same
    yardstick, like mathew hayden ..m massive, imposing, rigid. Creating
    a sense of awe and fear with their bulging eyes. They are more like
    gripping their weapons ready to strike. Plus they seem to have a
    myriad of creatures under them incl snake, rat, lizard, owl etc in
    sri's current selection. Ornamentation is more profound with crowns
    gaining prominence along with elaborate waist cloth, arm bands etc.
    >
    > Later pandya the ornamentation takes more precedence than style
    with elaborate crowns etc
    >
    > Maybe I will try and feature them all shortly. But my vote on
    anything related to stone sculpture is always with the pallavas.
    >
    > Rgds
    > Vj
    >
  • Re Hindu temple Architecture, this may also help.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_temple_architecture

    Dear Shriram,

    Nice photographs.

    thank you very much.

    greetings and best wishes,

    sps
  • Hi Vijay,

    You can also add the mockery of the Pallava lion pillars, which always makes me feel that we can never be able to get anyone to recreate them anymore. They laugh at our insolence and pride.

    http://lh3.ggpht.com/_SbwlmN5U3sI/SMapI1lVcjI/AAAAAAAAEdk/0UMKzeHPYaM/s720/DSC_3528.JPG

    http://lh6.ggpht.com/_SbwlmN5U3sI/SMasjiWl8gI/AAAAAAAAEeA/2LaD3y9CsT8/s720/DSC_3524.JPG
  • Dear Shriram,
    Thanks for those photos. The Allur Sivan door guardians are really
    great--
    My favorite kind of thing.
    Hope someone will clean them so the details will be easier to see.
    What's Kalvettu?
    You know, even after looking at so much sculpture, I haven't
    taken the time to sort out Pallava, Chozha and Pandya styles.
    I really should think about it.
    About Pallava slimness : think of the slim -possibly
    portrait- sculptures on Nageshwar Kovil at Kumbakonam, they are Chozha
    aren't they ?
    Just 'thinking out loud. . .'
    Kathie
  • KALVETTU - Incription.

    Dear Shriram and other friends,

    Keeping in mind we have Non-Tamil knowing - but Tamil History loving
    members amongst us, we will try to put English word also ( where
    necessary ) to enable them understand quickly and easily.

    Thanks for enlightening Katherine.

    regards / sps

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