Upper Pallava cave temple at Trichy
  • Hi,
    The upper cave, of the two cave temples at Trichy, was excavated by
    Mahendravarman I. This is the farthest cave temple, from his capital, excavated
    by him. few things of interest are specified below:

    1. A magnificent bas-relief panel of Gangadhara which is assumed unparalleled in
    its class.
    2. Inscription suggesting the conversion of Mahendra towards Shaivism from some
    other hostile faith, most probably Jainism.
    3. Many inscriptions giving his various birudas (titles).
    4. Praising power of the Cholas in his inscription, quite interesting isn't it?
    5. Various other medallions than traditional lotus medallion over pillar faces.
    6. Median patta over the rolled corbel.

    http://msg4saurabh.blogspot.com/2010/09/pallava-cave-temples-of-trichy.html
  • fantastic work saurabh - especially the inscriptions. did you notice the
    inside of the shrine - its has two empty sockets
  • Very good post.

    need to go through leisurely

    especially the inscriptions - excellent

    Mention of Cholas - If there was chola king at that time - he must be the father or Grand father of Mangayarkkarasi.

    Mahendra - appar - we will discuss later.

    Now i am reading inscriptions - district wise, temple wise. Theygive lot of info.

    The Hindu religion of that period - even end of Chola period - gave equal importance to Siva and Vishnu.

    Initially brahma also had equal importance.

    There are lot of Siva Brahmanas with typical visnu names and lot of Vasihnava followers with names like Parameswara etc.

    I will touch upon that during the Ramayanam series. But only when one read all the inscriptions of TN - anything can be conclusively said. ( requires 2 or 3 life with a continued memory of the previous births)
  • Hi vj,
    Yes there are two sockets inside the shrine. Earlier scholars, A H
    Longhurts, E Hultzsch, thought that one, large one, socket was for Shivalingam
    and smaller one was for an image of Mahendravarman. However later scholars, K R
    Srinivasan, on careful study of the inscription proposed that the smaller socket
    was for an image of Parvati. Also whether it was a shivalingam or a stone image
    of shiva is not very clear. As per KR Srinivasan, we do not find lingas in that
    time of Pallava temples so it might be that linga was not in worship at that
    time. This might be very specific to Pallavas as reference of shivalinga was
    quite older than Mahendra's time. One such shivalinga is at Gudimallam which is
    assigned to 1st-2nd century BC.
    Need to find more on this. What do you think about the Shivalingam during
    Mahendra's time?
  • Hi Saurabh,

    I don't know if I agree with the idea that shivalingas weren't worshipped at
    that time, given Mahendra's inscription right there: "...Lingena Lingini..."

    It may be that full images were worshiped alongside Lingas, but I don't know
    how you can categorically state that they weren't.

    Shash
  • mahendra clearly states he came back to worship the linga - so it was defn a
    linga. but what intrigues me - is the two sockets. we never get to see umai
    anywhere in any of later pallava caves incl mallai - a late cave like the
    mahishasuramardhini has a single slot. the same applies to the
    malaiayadiaptti cave as well - but then in malaiyadipatti - you would have
    seen the later carving to allow for the ablution water to come out - so
    could be the addnl slot was carved out later


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  • Hi Shash,
    Quoting from 'The Cave Temples of the Pallavas' by K R Srinivasan-

    "In the light of the above, while the implication is that the sakala or
    anthropomorphic forms (tanu) of Siva and Parvati were installed in the shrine,
    the words lingena lingini jnanam of the next verse may not perhaps indicate a
    linga or the symbolic form of Siva as has been taken by some. Linga also means
    the image of a god or an idol (sakala). If it was nishakla linga, its
    description as saili tanu (stone form or body) should also mean a symbol and not
    a bodily form and particularly the adjective saili (of stone) would indicate a
    stone form only. But the terms tanu, Harasya tanu, etc, are clearly used in the
    other verses. Hultzsch, aware of this apparent contradiction, says: 'The whole
    verse has a double entendre. It contains allusions to Indian logic
    (Tarkasastra), in which lingin means the subject of a proportion, linga the
    predicate of a proportion and vipaksha as instance on the opposite side',
    suggesting the possibility of alternate meaning to the term linga. The
    contemporary Saiva saints do not mention a stone linga in any of their hymns and
    we have not also any rock-cut linga in any of the Pallava cave temples,
    particularly of the time of Mahendra."

    There are two sockets inside the shrine. There can be few combination as written
    below:
    1- It may be assumed that one was to house an image of Shiva and another for an
    image of Parvati.
    2 - One socket for Sivalinga and another for an image of Parvati
    3 - One socket for Sivalinga and another for an image of Mahendravarman
    4 - One socket for Shiva image and another for an image of Mahendravarman

    Now we can discuss with evidences over this quotation, if there are any
    contradictory evidence.
  • The one that comes to my mind immediately is

    Thirukkazhugukundram inscription

    of Skanda Sishya, reconfirmed by Narsimaha pallava 1 reconfirmed by Rajendra 1.

    That refers to the TEMPLE which existed even before the Thirukkazhugu kundram cave. ie the Vedapurisvara temple above.

    Can we say that as a proof of Lingam worship in Pallava territory.
  • Given the tradition of our land and the dharma, no one will have that kind
    of ego to have his own statue/image on the same level/platform as that of
    the god, in this case, Shiva's image or Lingam.

    I dont think anywhere in the country, we have the god's image and a humans
    image on the same level...do we?

    My Two cents...
  • Hi satish

    The inscription does say so ! The speciality is you see shiva with all
    royal embelishments.

    Reg equating god with king, god king concept was very much there :
    resembling so n so god in splendor, carrying the signs of ....., why
    take the merikeerthi of rjc : first two lines ??

    Vj
  • nandhik kalambagam, pandikkovai

    the 2 - which i will be referring in Ramayana series.

    The King is considered as the an amsam of Vishnu.

    " Thiruvudai mannaraik kanda pothellam thirumalaik Kandene " - nammalwar.
  • King is always equated to the God. Even a son in law in treated at par to
    'Vishnu' and the father in law washes his foot with water (padabishekam)
    during marriage.

    But never in our tradition, God has been equated to King/Man. Both can never
    be on the same pedestal...

    my two cents :)

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