How all these happened in history? where they totally different from what was written in ponniyin selvan??? can somebody eloborate on this??? If so then, what are all the fictional characters in Ponniyin selvan? Is vandiyathevan a true character or its again a fictional???
Very curious topic and I am interested to know more about this.
Please read the last chapter of Ponniyin selvan, after Kadambur ilavarasi dies, Kalki answers a series of questions, in which he talks about the kalvettu in Peria Kovil, which talks about 'Kundhavai Pratiyar and her Husband Vanthiya Thevan ...'
a lot has been discussed on these in the old posts- you could do a key word search and dig more into the posts. However, for quick ref
There are no archealogical evidence / pointers towards nandhini
The big temple inscriptions talk of benevelont endowments/gifts given by kundavai and her husband vandiyathevan.
TANJAVUR Brihadhiswara TEMPLE Inscriptions INSCRIPTIONS ON THE WALLS OF THE CENTRAL SHRINE
No. 2 On the west wall
This inscription is engraved in five sections, each of which occupies a separate face of the west wall. It consists of two distinct parts.
The first part extends to about two thirds of line 7 of the first section and describes eleven old vessels, which were presented on the 310th day of the 25th year of the reign of Ko-Rajakesarivarman, alias Rajarajadeva, âto (the goddess) Umaparamesvari, who is the consort of our lord Adavallar,â by the kingâs elder sister,[18] who was the queen of Vallavaraiyar[19] Vandyadevar.
Ak assasination is also a fact - the udayarkudi inscriptions talk of Ravidasan, Soman Sambavan and Parameswaran as the key consipirators ( note the usage thokigal - meaning someone who betrayed) as well as the punishment metted out to them by RRC.
These form the core of Kalki's plot and mastery of his literary genius is the way in which he wound his plot around these.
some questions do arise from these, why were the consipirators punished after some many years ( 15 years of Uttama rule ) - in Udayar, balakumaran has attempted to explain this by saying that RRC wanted to identify every spoke in the plot plus let them admit to their crime by their own words etc ....but then justice delayed is justice denied...something is buried deep in the recesses of history...
Hi, I am not sure about whether Nandhini is fictional or not.. Now only im hearing this type of information... Can anyone explain who she is really and what is the secret behind her, though she is a fictional character...
But Vandhiyadevan is not a fictional character.. We have some evidance in Tanjore temple...
nice to read yr informations. I didnt yet visited the big temple. since i m n chennai it needs me some time and i need somebody for company. before reading yr mail i thought in addition to nandini , ravidasan soman sambavan were also kalki's imaginory charecters. now only i came to know the truth. what else is there on the walls and kalvettus can u give more details on this. And what about ayanar and sivagami of SS. If they are imaginary charecters how kalki is indicating about them in "Parthiban Kanavu" itself ( because PK was written before SS).
In the foreword to Ss, Kalki presents the following as being facts:
The conversion of Mahendravarman from a Jain to a Shaivite.
Thiunavukarasar (Appar)one of the Moovars (the most famous of 63 Nayanmars) lived during Mahendravarman's rule.
The siege of Kanchi by Pulakesi
Pulakesi meeting the Pandya kings
Narasimhavarman avenging the siege of Kanchi by attacking and burning down Vatapi
Paranjothi being the commander of Narasimhavarman's army
Paranjothi later adopting the name Siruthondar and is one of the 63 Nayanmars
All the rest is Kalki's prowess. Kalki got the inspiration to write Parthibara Kanavu and Sivakamiyin Sabadam on the seashore of Mahabalipuram, when he was accompanied by Rasikamani T. K. C. and where he saw thousands and thousands of ships and boats carrying warriors on one side, and other people, architects, Ayanar, Sivakami, Mahendravarmar and Mamallar on the other side in his mental vision. They left a deep and lasting impression upon his heart and only after finishing - possibly he drew up the plot for both ss and pk together but worked on them seperately
> All the rest is Kalki's prowess. Kalki got the inspiration to write > Parthibara Kanavu and Sivakamiyin Sabadam on the seashore of > Mahabalipuram,
possibly he drew up the plot for > both ss and pk together but worked on them seperately >
He reportedly wrote the entire text of parthiban kanavu when he was under the employ of vasan. but he kept it a secret. so kalki seems to have planned his quitting of ananda vikadan for quite some time though people make it out that it was sudden.
Kalki perceived the idea of SS even before any of his other novels. He himself said that it took 12 years for him to complete SS and only after finishing it he felt light at heart. But when he was in prison for a year, he needed some instrument to kindle the freedom spirit in the masses and wanted to do it immediately. Thus came Parthiban Kanavu, which has its inner crux as freedom struggle and he wrote the entire novel when he was in Prison. SS was in his heart for nearly 10 years and then only took the physical form.
Given the above, which was told by Kalki himself, I am not sure how far Venkatesh's comment matches with this fact.
kalki's third term in jail lasted less than 4 months. jan 21 to april 12th or so in 1941. it was spent much in battling his asthma( rajaji lent him his thermos flask). there was no major writing in kalki's life then except for letters to his children who couldnt even read at that time.
sunda the primary biographer of kalki mentions with some evidence that parthiban kanavu was written much earlier than oct 1941 when it was published but it remains a mystery why it was not serialised in vikadan. page 384 and 484 of PONNIYIN PUTHALVAR.
the difference in publishing between parthiban kanavu and ss was only 3 years. 1941 and 1944
I dont remember where I read the content which I wrote in my previous mail. My memory is not that good as yours Venkatesh :).
Just picked up the SS copy i have and read the foreword by Kalki.Kalki has just said that he was asked to write novels by his friends and so started PK. It was grand success and his manager at Kalki magazine has to run through the whole country to get Paper to publish, becuase print papers were in demand those times. He says that he didnt get the satisfaction after completing PK and only after completing SS he was satisfied.
May be what I wrote is a wrong info I read somewhere else.
thanks a lot venkatesh and sathish the info u have given are new to me. So is it sure that both sivakami and aayanar are kalki's imaginary charecters. But it is somewhat difficult to believe.Because i used to shed tears when i read the last pages of SS( along with mamalla chakravarthi).that is wonder of kalki's writings.