ancient festivals in lower thanjai regions (14 posts)

  • Profile picture of gandhiram gandhiram said 1 year, 9 months ago:

    freinds,
    as the adi peruku is celebrated today, there are 3 festivals comes to my mind at this moment,in the lower kaveri region.

    1. the karai yeria thirunal( day of landing the shore) by appar
    this is celebrated near cuddalore where appar swamigal reached the shores after the pallavan’s order to banish him.
    2. thiru-mulai-pal vizha ( celebration of the breast feeding) this is done in seerkazhi, a popular public festive in the memory of sambandar swamigal’s feeding by goddess parvathi
    3.mangani thiruvizha( mango festival): this is in karaikal. again very popular locally. the day to remember the karaikal ammaiyar’s donation of a mango to lord siva.

    these three festivals are connected to the saivite revival and probably 1400 years old. they are also much deeply rooted with people and have mass participation in those localities. a bond that has held us so long and deeper. even in the internet age these are reality! that a few such festives would be seen elsewhere. that is the uniqueness of kaveri delta culture.

    gandhi

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  • Profile picture of sps10142004 sps10142004 said 1 year, 9 months ago:

    Dear Dr. Gandhiram,

    Karikkal Maangani Festival just conducted about a fortnight back.
    I was fortunate to take part.

    Seerkazhi – Sambandar breast-fed by Umai – is another interesting festival. I have attended a couple of times.

    Karaiyerikuppam – Appar – festival I missed so far.

    Actually – Appar does not hymn of his ordeals in the hands of Pandya / Jain Power Centres – either in Madurai (where he was put in Lime Keln ) or in Mallai – where he was tied to heavy stone and submerged under the sea – water.

    he reached ashore near Cuddalore and hymned at Thirupadhiripuliyur .. There also he did not hymn of these ordeals.

    In THIRUNEELAKKUDI – near Aaduthurai – he hymned of these ordeals and added that under such great Ordeals ” i was placing my faith on Thiruneelakkudi Easan only ” !!

    Presentday Thiruneelakkudi is yet to publicise of the Great Faith imposed by Appar !!

    rgds / sps

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  • Profile picture of vj_episteme vj_episteme said 1 year, 9 months ago:

    dear sir

    1. appar came ashore after the stone to which he was tied and thrown into
    the ocean floated

    2. sambandar was not breast fed – he was a 3 year old boy then – so he was
    fed milk but in a cup

    last comment on this post clarifies

    http://www.poetryinstone.in/lang/en/2009/08/13/love-of-a-foster-mothe.html

    Got this lovely clarification from Mr. Subramaniam sir, sambandar was fed in
    a cup ( her milk but in a cup)

    http://www.thevaaram.org/thirumurai_1/search_view.php?thiru=3&Song_idField=3024002&padhi=024

    போதையார் பொற்கிண்ணத் தடிசில்பொல் லாதெனத்
    தாதையார் முனிவுறத் தான்எனை யாண்டவன்
    காதையார் குழையினன் கழுமல வளநகர்ப்
    பேதையா ளவளொடும் பெருந்தகை யிருந்ததே.
    ——-
    பொற்கிண்ணத்தில் ஞானம் பெருகும் அடிசிலை இறைவனின் ஆணைப்படி உமாதேவியார்
    திருஞானசம்பந்தப் பெருமானுக்கு ஊட்ட, பால் அறாவாயராக விளங்கிய அவரைப் பார்த்து
    ` யார் தந்த அடிசிலை உண்டனை ?` என்று தந்தையார் கோபித்து வினவ இறைவர் தம்
    திருக்காட்சியினை நல்கி என்னை ஆட்கொண்டார். அத்தகைய பெருமையுடைய சிவபெருமான்
    காதிற் குழையோடும் பேதையாகிய உமாதேவியோடும் கழுமலம் என்னும் வளநகரில்
    வீற்றிருந்தருளுகின்றார்.
    3. karaikkal ammai gifting mango to shiva is also not correct.

    http://www.poetryinstone.in/lang/en/2008/10/10/all-for-a-mango-not-the-one-you-know-karaikkal-ammai.html

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  • Profile picture of shankypriyan shankypriyan said 1 year, 9 months ago:

    1. The rock reaching shore is celbrated. It is believed that lord Siva did that. Hence the place is called ” Yetri Vittan Kuppam”

    2. The milk given to Sambandar in a cup is considered as the divine breast milk.Hence the festival is Mulaippal Vizha. Even today women bring their kids, get the milk offerred and give it to the kids.

    3. Adiyar was consiered siva. Hence in karaikkal mangani vizha, Bikshadanar goes for procession.

    The Utsavams in these temples are celebrated in this way.

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  • Profile picture of vj_episteme vj_episteme said 1 year, 9 months ago:

    to clarify

    3. karaikkal ammai gifting mango to shiva is also not correct. when she gave
    it , she gave it to a sivanadiyaar. the miracle was when her husband asked
    for the second mango, the lord gave her the second mango

    http://www.poetryinstone.in/lang/en/2008/10/10/all-for-a-mango-not-the-one-you-know-karaikkal-ammai.html

    http://www.poetryinstone.in

    Here the language of stone surpasses the language of man

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  • Profile picture of shankypriyan shankypriyan said 1 year, 9 months ago:

    Other Festivals
     
    1. Sambandar Marriage and attaing siva’s feet at Nallur Perumanam
     
    2. Manickavasagar vizha in chidambaram where Vasagar moves towards Siva after each verse in Thirvembavai is recited.
     

    http://www.tamilnadutemples.co.in/temple.asp?serialno=4&tempid=T0303&desctitle=Festivlas+In+NATARAJA+TEMPLE

     
    Now after reading this hope that people will know that how Tamil is celebrated in Chidambaram.
     
    3. Appar attaining siva’s feet in Thirunallur.
     
    4. Thiruchengottangudi – Pillaikkari festival .
     

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  • Profile picture of vikochn vikochn said 1 year, 9 months ago:

    Dear Mr.Kumar,

    This is a subject of Child Psychology. K.P.S.Menon ICS wrote in his autobiography that, he was breast fed by his mother until he was six.

    Kothanda Raman

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  • Profile picture of satish_arun satish_arun said 1 year, 9 months ago:

    >
    > Vijay,
    >
    Thats an interesting part. All along I used wonder when i come acorss ‘unna
    mulai amman’ in TVmalai or the usage of ‘unnamulai’ to refer parvati in any
    of the thevaram hymes, and think if she have fed Gnana sambandar, then how
    is she unnamulai?

    This ‘cup’ holds good, when we come across so many references to ‘unnamulai’

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  • Profile picture of vj_episteme vj_episteme said 1 year, 9 months ago:

    dear sir

    feeding ones own is different. anyway, the reference is to umai feeding him
    in a porkkinnam – golden bowl

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  • Profile picture of gandhiram gandhiram said 1 year, 9 months ago:

    this week is the world breast feeding week. so we shall encourage breast feeding hypothesis instead of this “kinnam”" theory
    gandhi

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  • Profile picture of satish_arun satish_arun said 1 year, 9 months ago:

    Sir,

    With due regards…just because it is breast feeding week, should we change
    the historical fact? :)

    In fact Vijay’s clarification cleared my long time doubt…Parvathi is
    called ‘unna mulai amman’ in Tiruvannamalai and in various other temples.
    Thevaram and other tirumurai’s sing her as ‘unna mulai’,'seppila mulai nan
    mangai’…etc. So i used to wonder, if she is ‘unna mulai’ then how can she
    bave fed sambandar? logic idikuthe???

    So this ‘kinnam’ part clears that doubt and its evident that, she is ‘unna
    mulai’ :)

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  • Profile picture of venkdhivakar venkdhivakar said 1 year, 9 months ago:

    Dear Sathish!

    SHE is the mother. And mother for all. And Gnanasambanthar is said to be avtar of Lord Muruga. The Breast feeding was not done but only breast milk was given. The following details you can find in thevaaram.org.

    இந்நிலையில் கரையில் அமர்ந்திருந்த பிள்ளையார் தந்தை
    யாரைக் காணாமல் முற்பிறப்பின் நினைவு மேலிட்டவராய் திருத் தோணி மலைச்
    சிகரத்தைப் பார்த்துக் கண்மலர்கள் நீர் ததும்பக் கைமலர்களால் பிசைந்து
    வண்ணமலர்ச் செங்கனிவாய் மணியதரம் புடை துடிப்ப `அம்மே அப்பா` என அழைத்து
    அழுதருளினார். பிள்ளையின் அழுகுரல் கேட்ட நிலையில் தோணிபுரத்து இறைவர்
    இறைவியாருடன் விடைமீது அமர்ந்து குளக்கரைக்கு எழுந்தருளி னார். பெருமான்
    உமையம்மையை நோக்கி `அழுகின்ற இப் பிள்ளைக்கு உன் முலைப்பாலைப்
    பொற்கிண்ணத்தில் கறந்து ஊட்டுக` எனப்பணித்தார். அம்மையாரும் அவ்வாறே தன்
    திருமுலைப்பாலைப் பொற்கிண்ணத்தில் கறந்து சிவஞானமாகிய அமுதைக் குழைத்து
    அழுகின்ற குழந்தை கையில் கொடுத்து உண்ணச் செய்து அழுகை தீர்த்தருளினார்.
    தேவர்க்கும் முனிவர்க்கும் கிடைக்காத பேரின்பம் பெற்ற நிலையில் பிள்ளையார்
    திருஞானசம்பந்தராய் அபரஞானம் பரஞானம் அனைத்தும் கைவரப் பெற்றார்.

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  • Profile picture of ravi_eds ravi_eds said 1 year, 9 months ago:

    http://www.poetryinstone.in/lang/en/2008/10/10/all-for-a-mango-not-the-one-you-know-karaikkal-ammai.html

    Legends and reality could be quite different.

    Ammai was a great saint no question but there is a lot of science in the approach that was taken by her to the path.
    For ex: Was she accompanied by ghosts or was she in the form of a ghost herself while visiting Kailash.
    Did she do sirasasana while climbing Mt.Kailash (if she physically ever went there)??

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  • Profile picture of ravi_eds ravi_eds said 1 year, 9 months ago:

    if thathuvam mixes with reality – there r bound to be confusions…

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