How much of Indian History is Hindu History (North East) (31 posts)

  • Profile picture of intellisurfer intellisurfer said 2 years, 3 months ago:

    1. NE India is a very delicate place in the global world of politics. China has been attracted towards that region for a very long time. This no doubt makes the region and the people living there as pawns in the hands of government. After all it is in India’s interest to take care of its territory.
    2. But the Christian missionaries do not seem to really spread any harmony out there: http://www.stephen-knapp.com/christian_terrorism_in_northeast_india.htm

    Essentially it is the control of people through numbers for both political and religious gains.

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  • Profile picture of abhivencat abhivencat said 2 years, 3 months ago:

    Hi

    ulfa or bodo seperatist movements are more regional than religious

    even nagaland where the church frequently mediates between the movement and the state the issue is not a christian independent state, but regionalism

    history records seccesionist movements have in many cases been other than religion. language, cultural identity and regionalism as well as a non caring central government are primary reasons.
    bangladesh is one succesful example of a country splitting on language issue.

    venketesh

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  • Profile picture of intellisurfer intellisurfer said 2 years, 3 months ago:

    Yes, there are certainly more reasons than just one reason for things to happen especially separatist movements. The foreign money that is flowing in for certain ’causes’ does not augur good for helping the already plagued people.

    Be it the Bhutanese Hindus or any other kinds in that region, Foreign Christian Missionaries are using the place to their advantage. Are they to blame for the existing conditions. Not. But they are fishing in the troubled waters and causing more havoc than anything else.

    Like I said, it is politics too. The land is geo-strategically placed. And it is doomed to play a role.

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  • Profile picture of shankypriyan shankypriyan said 2 years, 3 months ago:

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    Bangaladesh separated for language reason fine. Or Inspite of same religion Iran and Iraq fought etc.
    But the case is Hindus, even if they speak bengali are 3rd rate citizens.
    I am more bothered about further separations from my country and suffering Hindu Poulace in Bangladesh, Malaysia and Srilanka.

    regards

    — In ponniyinselvan@ yahoogroups. com, “abhivencat” wrote:
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    > Hi
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    > ulfa or bodo seperatist movements are more regional than religious
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    > even nagaland where the church frequently mediates between the movement and the state the issue is not a christian independent state, but regionalism
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    > history records seccesionist movements have in many cases been other than religion. language, cultural identity and regionalism as well as a non caring central government are primary reasons.
    > bangladesh is one succesful example of a country splitting on language issue.
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    > venketesh
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  • Profile picture of intellisurfer intellisurfer said 2 years, 3 months ago:

    Well, I have bee looking at providing some links to substantiate my thoughts that religion – Christianity in particular – is cause of some problems in NE India. So here are some links on Nagaland:

    1) http://www.nagalim.us/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=50&Itemid=5
    2) http://www.dailyherald.com/special/passagefromindia/nagaland_qa.asp
    3) http://www.christianaggression.org/item_display.php?id=1136510315&type=news
    4) http://www.economicexpert.com/a/Nagaland.htm

    There is nexus between Christian missionaries and Maoists in Orissa and elsewhere.

    And last but not least, please search for “10-40 window” and you will understand the systemic pressure India has to encounter; imagine the strain this puts on the fabric of our society. No doubt Kandhamal type incidents occur more frequently when the native (a.k.a Indic) people voice their concerns.

    What do they say in tamil “kuniya kuniya dhan koottuvanga”!!!

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  • Profile picture of shankypriyan shankypriyan said 2 years, 3 months ago:

    kuta kuta kuniyaravan muttal

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  • Profile picture of intellisurfer intellisurfer said 2 years, 3 months ago:

    Nimindhu ninna, will get branded as “communalist” or “hindutvawaadi”.

    What do they say…..”damned if you do or not” :-( ((

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  • Profile picture of shankypriyan shankypriyan said 2 years, 3 months ago:

    I agree. Many CEOs, Presidents, GMs to workers , auto drivers, to teachers toHousewives to Panwala. all express strong hindu feelings while talking privately but afraid to open their mouth in public.

    It is more in TN, AP, Kerala. Karnataka to some extend is ok.

    The collective opinion vs Individual opinion is so different. It may be a Vijayanagar /Dravidian party impact. North had No Vijayanagar and hence felt the pain.

    The Hindu Munnani of TN is far better. Nothing that sort in AP.

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  • Profile picture of dmaloo dmaloo said 2 years, 3 months ago:

    Sir how many CEOs and Presidents you have talked to in private :) just curious to know :)

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  • Profile picture of ravi_eds ravi_eds said 2 years, 3 months ago:

    What does Hindu Munnani do ?

    And is this President referred of US or India ?

    - R

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  • Profile picture of abhivencat abhivencat said 2 years, 3 months ago:

    it is a fear psychosis that these people are trying to build

    the head of a rss run school group in chennai which has “temple cleaning” as one of its “socially usefull productive works” tells me “christian and muslim boys actually less OB” in that activity.

    funny. in a land where a mosque an be destroyed and a missionarie’s family can be burnt aliv somebody from the majority community should be afraid.
    the fears are as imaginary as your presidents, ceos and auto drivers.

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    > It is more in TN, AP, Kerala. Karnataka to some extend is ok.
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    > The collective opinion vs Individual opinion is so different. It may be a Vijayanagar /Dravidian party impact. North had No Vijayanagar and hence felt the pain.
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    > The Hindu Munnani of TN is far better. Nothing that sort in AP.
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    > regards
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  • Profile picture of shankypriyan shankypriyan said 2 years, 3 months ago:

    I am answeri g for all the 3 mails in this regard.

    I travel a lot and have worked in 4 groups. As a student of management do participate in forums.

    The CEOs , Presidents of many firms ( I know the name that comes to your mind is Ratan tata, narayanamoorthi -Not fortunate yet to meet them) but many of theother well known I dont want to elobarate much because, while explaining i will come out with more details. ( Pottu Vangidiveengo)

    With regard to auto drivers,i aveargetalk to 3/4 auto drivers a day and start the topioc on the stickers in his auto l.Slowly they will come out. Actually it is a reality check.

    There is nothing fear we want to create.
    As for as the changing faith withbelief, i absolutely have no issue. You cannot prevent any one.But the question is what happens after conversion?

    If you say Mosque destroying, Burning – then i can also quote killing of swami lakshmananda Saraswathi, Difficulties faced by Ramakrishna Mission in North East, (One of our member associated with them can check and tell- Mutt had published a book on the dangers of conversion. A mission like Ramakrishna Mission sounding alaram is not fear psychosis.)Trial by media etc. In fact with a small number if they could do these, what will happen with big nos is my question?

    as far as the others participating, i will write in the evening. have an intresting inncident to tell. But you politely Kothuvangiteengo on RSS hm certifying. Slowly will say, RSS is not against concersion?

    You have a beautiful way of diverting.

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  • Profile picture of dmaloo dmaloo said 2 years, 3 months ago:

    Thank you, i dont know about others but i just asked in a light way. I am not interested in any intense religious discussion that are based on basic concept that hindus are cowards and victims of others which is again very very pulicha maavu to grind atleast on this forum.

    You may find similar belivers here but if pushing that argument/theory is your goal as it strongly and repeatedly appears to be – you may really find more audience and more debates on Beleifnet.

    Malathi

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  • Profile picture of shankypriyan shankypriyan said 2 years, 3 months ago:

    We came to learn history. some people subtly bring this subject and run away when people start to discuss.

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  • Profile picture of sampath_srinivasaraghavan sampath_srinivasaraghavan said 2 years, 3 months ago:

    Dear venkat,To score a point please do not trivialise sensitive
    issues.If majority community is not careful, they will eventually suffer
    like kashmiri, bangladesi or pakistani hindus.For one mosque (debatable)
    destroyed, thousand temples were and will be destroyed (as is happening
    in Malaysia or bangladesh)If an old hindu missionary is shot in cold
    blood, that is forgivable. At least the ‘burner’ is punished and is in
    prison; the ‘shooters’ are having more fun looking for more targets.The
    mosque deserves its fate; when will Mathura and Kasi be redeemed?In
    this land, only the so called majority community has to be afraid,
    because it has progressive elements that are more christian than Christ
    and Gandhi – show the other cheek and suffer mentality.Sampath

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