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Hi

Have a doubt. I believe that after rrc, rjc shifted capital to gkc, n
from then on gkc remained chola capital. What was Kulottunga III
capital city. Doubt is because in the famous sundara pandya
meikeerthi, he says he destroyed uraiyur n tanjore only ( the
ploughing with eruthu n sowing erukku seed one)

Vj

Hi
i am a novice on this but wiki says there is a edict on one compund wall -An epigraph refers to the fort wall of Kulothunga Chola (Kulottunga Cholan Thirumadil).

my guess is that when the cholas land extent startd shrinking the hoysalas were pressing them from the north.
Gkc was also very close to the head quarters of koperunchikan the nemisis of the cholas sendamangalam was too close for comfort.

the cholas must have gone into seclusion in tanjore area. the last battle between cholas and pandyas seem to have been fought near kannanur- samayapuram

really a topic worth discussing. we will get to know a lot.

venketesh

K III had in-laws with Hoysalas. Vira Narasimha was awarded some tamil lands as a token of K III gratitude but not to the extent of GKC.

K III was the greatest of the final cholas, something like Anayara vilakku pragasama eriyum

Towards the 2nd 1/2 of his life, I believe he was more softer and focus shifted to building temples to the north of GKC. He was responsible for lots of temples in and around chennai.

- R

Kulothunga III invaded Pandya kingdom 3 times. First at the request of Vikrama Pandyan and against Vira Pandyan just before 1182 AD. He made Vikrama Pandyan the King and returned. Second battle was at Nettur against Vira Pandian accompanied with the King of Kerala. Vira pandian and Vira Keralan were defeated and surrendered at last. They were treated well by K III.The third battle was in 1205 AD and against Jatavarman Kulasekaran at Karur. After winning the battle at Karur K III went to Madurai and stayed for sometime. He named a Thiruveethi in his name, covered the temple of Madurai with gold, erected pillars announcing his victory and finally gave back the country to pandian and returned. In all the battles against Pandyas he treated the defeated kings well and gave back their country. This may be a reason for Sundara Pandian not destroying GKC, and the Second main reason must be Hoysalas support became stronger in 1217 AD.

K III’s soldiers destroyed coronation hall in Madurai during 1205 incursion. Tweleve years later MSP’s war of revenge culminated in performing veerabhishekam in the coronation hall of Cholas at Ayirattali ( same place where K III is anointed glorious for his chain of victories) after ransacking Tanjavur and Urayur. Invading Hoysalas allied in matrimony with K III, forced MVP to give back power to K III and crown prince Rajendra III, but only after the last Chola emperor conceded subservience to the Pandian. MSP’s invasion appears to be short of reaching GKC in 1217. The following year K III died in grief and old age leaving a ghost of the great Chola empire in the hands of inept son Rajendra III to defend.

— In [email protected], TM Sunder wrote:
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> The following year K III died in grief and old age leaving a ghost of the great Chola empire in the hands of inept son Rajendra III to defend.

rajaraja 3 was held prisoner with his entire court by koperunchkan. once again kings of tamilnadu forgot their enemity and relesed the king.

that one act finished off the cholas once for all

venketes

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> perhaps the oath taken by the pandyas in exile was only these two places. gkc was a newer town.
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> tanjore in exchange for madurai…..
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> — In ponniyinselvan@ yahoogroups. com, vj kumar wrote:
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> > Hi all
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> > The question is, if the chola capital was gkc during K III times, why
> > did sundara pandya destroy only uraiyur n tanjore!!
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> > Vj
> >
> > On 10/11/09, ravi_eds wrote:
> > > K III had in-laws with Hoysalas. Vira Narasimha was awarded some tamil lands
> > > as a token of K III gratitude but not to the extent of GKC.
> > >
> > > K III was the greatest of the final cholas, something like Anayara vilakku
> > > pragasama eriyum
> > >
> > > Towards the 2nd 1/2 of his life, I believe he was more softer and focus
> > > shifted to building temples to the north of GKC. He was responsible for lots
> > > of temples in and around chennai.
> > >
> > > – R
> > >
> > > — In ponniyinselvan@ yahoogroups. com, “abhivencat” wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi
> > >> i am a novice on this but wiki says there is a edict on one compund wall
> > >> -An epigraph refers to the fort wall of Kulothunga Chola (Kulottunga
> > >> Cholan Thirumadil).
> > >>
> > >> my guess is that when the cholas land extent startd shrinking the hoysalas
> > >> were pressing them from the north.
> > >> Gkc was also very close to the head quarters of koperunchikan the nemisis
> > >> of the cholas sendamangalam was too close for comfort.
> > >>
> > >> the cholas must have gone into seclusion in tanjore area. the last battle
> > >> between cholas and pandyas seem to have been fought near kannanur-
> > >> samayapuram
> > >>
> > >> really a topic worth discussing. we will get to know a lot.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> venketesh
> > >>
> > >> — In ponniyinselvan@ yahoogroups. com, vj kumar wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Hi
> > >> >
> > >> > Have a doubt. I believe that after rrc, rjc shifted capital to gkc, n
> > >> > from then on gkc remained chola capital. What was Kulottunga III
> > >> > capital city. Doubt is because in the famous sundara pandya
> > >> > meikeerthi, he says he destroyed uraiyur n tanjore only ( the
> > >> > ploughing with eruthu n sowing erukku seed one)
> > >> >
> > >> > Vj
> > >> >
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That incident happened in 1231 when Rajaraja III was driven out GKC by Maravarman Sundara Pandyan ( MSP.Rajaraja IIItried his escape to Hoysala land. The entire court with the king wasensnared in captivity by Kopperunchinga I, who connived against the Cholas and allied with MSP. Kopperunchinga I was one of the generals in KIII’s reign tookan opportunity to capture power, tormentinga weak Rajaraja III. Ever friendly Hoysala king Narasimha, also brother-in-law to Cholas, dispatched an army that successfully intervenedKopperunchinga I and restored the forlorn Chola king and his court. Narasimha led another army and defeated MSP at the same time giving second lease of flicker to Rajaraja III who returned to GKC as a toothlessCholaking. Following the truce Pandyas, Cholas and Hoysalas entered into royal wedlock.

History shows Rajaraja III reign was for a long tenure of 50 years but the king was hounded by Chola dynasty’s arch enemies as well as by powerful Chola generals like Kopperunchinga who had a Pallava lineage. The poor Chola king survived but lived in ignominy. By 1251 when Jatavarman Sundara Pandian (JSP)ascended Pandya thrown, the last Chola king was reduced to a vassal to powerful Pandian. JSP’s inscriptions are found in GKC signaling his occupation of Chola capital as early as his 2nd regnal year. Perhaps, he left Rajaraja III alone in GKC as either he was too weak a king to bother or due to relationship in royal wedding.

Having survived several battles Rajaraja III faced Maravarman Kulasekara Pandian (MKP) who succeeded JSP in a final and decisive one at Kannanur in 1279. The last vestige of mighty Chola Empirewas not lucky this time. He was defeated and perhaps killed by MKP. With that, GKC,the magnificent capital of Cholas, was annexed to Pandya kingdom.

AND WHERE THE “PANDYAS ” WOUND UP THEIR FLAG AFTER GKC VICTORY – HAS BECOME TO BE KNOWN AS ” MEENSURUTTI “.

Thanks and regards dear TMS.

sps

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