Kadal Pura (19 posts)

  • Profile picture of satish_arun satish_arun said 5 years, 1 month ago:

    Sri,

    Not sure whether its telepathy…remember a few months back I said I
    started Sandilyan’s Rajamuthirai but could not proceed even 50pages
    and you suggested me to start with yavana rani and kadal pura.

    So gathering the courage I started Kadal pura a month back and
    finished it just yesterday. Except for the third part second half
    rest was dragging. I was thinking of giving up in the first part
    itself, but forced myselt to complete all the three parts. Maybe its
    wrong to compare with Kalki, but characterizations are at the worst.

    The hero is invincible…he knows everything under the sun, what
    ever he plans will succeed, he knows what others are thinking and he
    can do magic to win over any situation. My god. more than a man kind
    of charectirisation. I cant take it.

    Its a ok kind of novel…

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  • Profile picture of sswetha_2000 sswetha_2000 said 5 years, 1 month ago:

    Satish,

    Contrary to the popular opinion that Kadal Pura is the masterpiece of
    Sandilyan I would vouch for Yavana Rani.

    Satish, I agree with u. I also found Kadal Pura to be a real DRAG.
    Most of the events in sec & third parts were repetitive.

    Raja Muththirai, Raja Thilagam, Raja Berigai, Jala Dheepam, Kanni
    Madam are some of the better works of Sandilyan IMHO!

    An invincible hero is the trademark of Sandilyan. He creates larger
    than life heroes. But, I do agree Kadal Pura is pretty far-fetched.

    If you had the patience to finish Kadal Pura, I wld suggest you
    continue reading Raja Muththirai. It is worth the effort and will get
    very interesting as you proceed.

    swetha

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  • Profile picture of sivaram_sk Sivaram said 5 years, 1 month ago:

    Sathish,

    True almost all of Sandilyan’s hero’s are invincible, that’s his style.

    My view is, if the book gives the entertainment you need that’s worth a read.
    If the book makes you read the second time and so on, that’s a
    classic(just like PS).
    Most of the Sandilyan’s book can be read once, and the one that stands
    apart(out of the
    one’s i have read) is Yavana Rani. Though the hero is still invincible
    you will love him.

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  • Profile picture of vkasirajan vkasirajan said 5 years, 1 month ago:

    Guys, you should read “Mannan Mahal” it is very
    dramatic with lots of fast moving events… and it
    happens in RJC times of his victory of the Ganges…

    I have the original Kumudam pages in which this was
    published as a serial in the 50′s. The artwork by one
    Sagar is stunning and brings to life the characters.

    Any one know of this artist Sagar?

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  • Profile picture of singrama-at-hotmail-dot-com singrama-at-hotmail-dot-com said 5 years, 1 month ago:

    Whether we like it or not I think Kadal Pura is the most popular novel of Sandilyan as I have seen people borrowing it often from circulating libraries. But my own favs of Sandilyan are Yavana Rani, Raja Muthirai and Kannimaadam.

    I also agree with the view that novels which can be read repeatedly can be classified as class ones, like PS and SS. I read novels of other authors too, including in English, and have found Thi Janakiraman’s Mohamul, considered a classice in Tamil literary circles, very difficult to go past two pages every time I have tried reading it. I don’t know why.

    One of the best Tamil novels I have read is “Kallukkul Eeram” by Ra Su Nallaperumal which was serialised in “Kalki” after it won the first prize in a Novel writing contest. His other novel based on the threat of communism in Indian politics ( I forget the name) is also a very good effort.

    Can we take this forum to discuss Tamil novels? I think quite a few of us would be regular contributors.

     

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  • Profile picture of princeraj2k princeraj2k said 5 years, 1 month ago:

    Friends,

    Though I have read many novels of Sandilyan (inclusive
    od Kadal Pura, Yavana Rani & Mannan Mahal),I agree
    with Satish.

    I have seen some of my friends saying that Sandilyan’s
    works are equivalent to Kalki’s. In my opinion Kalki
    is far ahead.

    One biggest problem in Sandilyan’s novels is that as
    you said the hero will always be invincible and also a
    know it all. Evreything will be larger than life
    portrayals. Apart from the hero none will be able to
    understand hero’s plots i.e except hero most others
    will not be intelligent.

    My reply might get back many hostile replies but this
    is my opinion. With no disrespect to Sandilyan, in
    terms of chracterisation Sandilyan lacks. I felt
    everything is exaggerated beyond the acceptance level.

    The problem I had was I kept comparing Sandilyan’s
    novels with that of kalki’s unitentionally while
    reading. I think you will be able to read his novels
    better, if you think that you hadn’t read Kaki’s.

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  • Profile picture of balasoundiram balasoundiram said 5 years, 1 month ago:

    Hi all

    I will not at all accept this. Sandilyan is a master in narration. Kalki is not a good narrator when compared to Sandi. I never ever seen a writer like him. I read most of his novels. Never ever compare Sandi with Kalki pl.

    I repeat Sandi is master in narrating. When you read historic stories, you need narration than telling the actual story.

    Luv
    Bala

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  • Profile picture of laxmisowmya laxmisowmya said 5 years, 1 month ago:

    Sandilyan only introduced Sarkel Kannoji Angre, a terror for britsh navy ,
    to Tamil people and his characters were mostly real. Nobody can beat his narration , I believe
    sowmyanarayanan

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  • Profile picture of satish_arun satish_arun said 5 years, 1 month ago:

    I am not as good a reader as others in this group. My reading is
    limited. Akilan’s vengayin maindhan was really good. I dont remember
    the whole story because i read it some 5 years back (poor memory you
    see). Recently read Prapanchan’s ‘vanam vasapadum’. Its based on
    Ananda rangam pillais dairy notes. It was one of the best. The
    narration, the flow of language were class apart.

    Have read Naa Paa’s Manipallavam, again long time back, but it was
    quite different and interesting to have a social novel in historical
    background..

    BTW, can some one tell me what is Manipallavam called today? Is it a
    fictitious island or a real one?

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  • Profile picture of sivankrishnaswami sivankrishnaswami said 5 years, 1 month ago:

    I found Saandilyan��s books nice even though he can nver be compared with Kalki. Saandilyan brings lot of fictional character to support his original characters, He researched a lot and I had the oppurtunity to talk with him in his house in T. Nagar before 15 years. I never coud accept the Srungaara rasam which he was very famous for and as I told him that he simply smiled and we moved to talk about Rajasimha pallavan.

    I would never say that his works were inferior. You could get lot of geographical informations from those books. I remember how I went to Mamallapuram and Uraiyur after reading Rajathilakam.

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  • Profile picture of snandaakumar snandaakumar said 5 years, 1 month ago:

    Hi all,

    The common thread is meticulous research that runs between Kalki, Sandilyan and I can vouch for Ra.ki.Rangarajan. I have not read the other authors.

    Each author has a style, I dont see it be to a good idea to compare one against the other. My mother is PS fan, she does not like Sandilyan, reasoning being he would waste his a chapter here and there going through the sringara rasam.. but he would build up the emotional link between characters.

    Kadal pura was detailed in ship building, trade routes, sea maps and he quotes his research decently well. Ra.Ki’s KDR was such an amazing masterpiece in giving detailed account on the social life of different religious sects in a single city.

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  • Profile picture of sswetha_2000 sswetha_2000 said 5 years, 1 month ago:

    vanakkam,

    Satish, u have the instinct to read real drags :-) Manipallavam is a
    real drag… The best historical book I’ve ready by Na.Pa is
    Niththilavalli. It is abt Kandungon Pandiyan re-capturing Madurai from
    the Kalappirars. The climax was a lil cinematic. Instead of a good
    battle, ego clashes b/w raja gurus was depcited. But, one can read the
    book for the sheer beauty of its prose!

    When it comes to battlefield descriptions, Sandilyan wins hand down. I
    agree that his characters are all larger than life and he does give
    too much importance to romance. But, that wouldn’t take away the
    interest he creates in the readers. That too, his descriptions of war
    strategies. The ‘Latha Vrichigam’ of Raja Thilagam, the Snake & Eagle
    of Yavana Rani, the Lightning forces of Raja Berigai, the storming of
    the fort in Raja Muththirai… all are exemplary. The naval
    expeditions of Jala Deepam is better than Kadal Pura – IMHO.

    We all know that any historical novel will deal with wars. The reader
    takes the protagonist’s side and one starts hating the villain! How I
    hated Naganandhi and Pulikesi :-) Read Raja Thilagam to get a very
    different perspective of the same.

    Akilan is famous for Vengaiyin Mainthan. His Kayalvizhi is also a
    masterpiece. To tell the truth, while reading it, I was torn between
    the Pandya prince and my own Chozha allegiance :-) His Paandimathevi
    is also good. Vetri Thirunagar is also really good.

    I found Jegachirpiyan repetitive. Thiruchittrambalam, Aalavaai
    Azhagan, Paththini Kottam all will have the same plot of impersonation.

    Vishwaksenan’s Indhra Dhanasu which won the Kalki historical
    competition is also a good one. Ra.Ki.Ra’s Naan Krishna Devaraayaan,
    Kowsigan’s Baamini Paavai, Sujatha’s Raththam Ore Niram, Kannadhasan’s
    Seramaan Kaadhali, Thaamarai Manaalan’s Andhappuram, Rajaguru’s Chozha
    Raani, Indra Soundarrajan’s Aindhu Vazhi Moodru Vaasal are all worth a
    read.

    Gowthama Neelambaran, Kovi Manisegaran, Vikraman, S.Balasubramniyam…

    Oh my…. I have to start to office… Will post another thread…

    swetha

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  • Profile picture of princeraj2k princeraj2k said 5 years, 1 month ago:

    Yes Nanda. Sandilyan deserves a special mention for
    the research he does b4 writing his novels.
    After reading Kadal Pura, I was amazed to see that
    people were so good in building ships long ago.

    Also I have not read other authors. Got to start with
    them. Can some one suggest me an author and a book to
    start with?

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  • Profile picture of sps10142004 sps10142004 said 5 years, 1 month ago:

    — In [email protected], “Swetha” wrote:

    REAL GOOD ONE FROM SWETHA ..
    AFTER LONG TIME !~

    PLS FIND MORE TIME.. THANKS.

    Best wishes, sps

    > vanakkam,
    >
    > Satish, u have the instinct to read real drags :-) Manipallavam is a
    > real drag… The best historical book I’ve ready by Na.Pa is
    > Niththilavalli. It is abt Kandungon Pandiyan re-capturing Madurai from
    > the Kalappirars. The climax was a lil cinematic. Instead of a good
    > battle, ego clashes b/w raja gurus was depcited. But, one can read the
    > book for the sheer beauty of its prose!
    >
    > When it comes to battlefield descriptions, Sandilyan wins hand down. I
    > agree that his characters are all larger than life and he does give
    > too much importance to romance. But, that wouldn’t take away the
    > interest he creates in the readers. That too, his descriptions of war
    > strategies. The ‘Latha Vrichigam’ of Raja Thilagam, the Snake & Eagle
    > of Yavana Rani, the Lightning forces of Raja Berigai, the storming of
    > the fort in Raja Muththirai… all are exemplary. The naval
    > expeditions of Jala Deepam is better than Kadal Pura – IMHO.
    >
    > We all know that any historical novel will deal with wars. The reader
    > takes the protagonist’s side and one starts hating the villain! How I
    > hated Naganandhi and Pulikesi :-) Read Raja Thilagam to get a very
    > different perspective of the same.
    >
    > Akilan is famous for Vengaiyin Mainthan. His Kayalvizhi is also a
    > masterpiece. To tell the truth, while reading it, I was torn between
    > the Pandya prince and my own Chozha allegiance :-) His Paandimathevi
    > is also good. Vetri Thirunagar is also really good.
    >
    > I found Jegachirpiyan repetitive. Thiruchittrambalam, Aalavaai
    > Azhagan, Paththini Kottam all will have the same plot of impersonation.
    >
    > Vishwaksenan’s Indhra Dhanasu which won the Kalki historical
    > competition is also a good one. Ra.Ki.Ra’s Naan Krishna Devaraayaan,
    > Kowsigan’s Baamini Paavai, Sujatha’s Raththam Ore Niram, Kannadhasan’s
    > Seramaan Kaadhali, Thaamarai Manaalan’s Andhappuram, Rajaguru’s Chozha
    > Raani, Indra Soundarrajan’s Aindhu Vazhi Moodru Vaasal are all worth a
    > read.
    >
    > Gowthama Neelambaran, Kovi Manisegaran, Vikraman, S.Balasubramniyam…
    >
    > Oh my…. I have to start to office… Will post another thread…
    >
    > swetha
    >

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  • Profile picture of sridhar_rathinam sridhar_rathinam said 5 years ago:

    Dear swetha
    I agree and disagree
    Yavanarani was better than kadal pura but I wouldnt call it a drag

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