Arulmozhi Varman (Unique aspects of PS) (23 posts)

  • Profile picture of seshadrigokul seshadrigokul said 5 years, 6 months ago:

    MESSAGE NO 201 FROM ARCHIVES REPOSTED:

    Just thought I could summarize some of the unique features of PS as
    compared to other historic novels written in Tamil -

    * Most of the novels have a big invasion or fighting between 2
    kingdoms as their climax. The entire novel will be moving towards
    this event and the author would have supported one side – portraying
    the other as the evil force. Kalki’s own SS is no exception to this.

    But PS is different in this respect – to a careful observer it will
    be evident that the novel does’nt have a climax on its own ! Kalki
    felt that the renunciation of Crown by Arulmizhi was his climax
    (refer his conclusion to the novel) – to many readers it is the
    murder of Aditya – but to me it is neither or both. That is why when
    you finish the novel, you always suffer from a sort of
    dissatisfaction – no other novel can give this feeling – that too at
    the end of 5th volume !

    * Most of the novels have a King or a prince as its hero – but in
    PS
    a small, insignificant and noble warrior (Vandhiyathevan) becomes a
    hero. It is interesting to note that Kalki actually wanted Arulmozhi
    to be recognized as a hero in his novel – the name Ponniyin
    selvan is
    derived from him – but an `all perfect’ figure he
    portrayed only
    helped to distance readers from Arulmizhi. Moreover the chronology of
    events was also in favour of Vandhiyathevan. It is interesting to
    compare Vandhiyathevan with Paranjothi – who is a character in SS
    and
    Ponnan of Parthiban Kanavu. In SS Paranjothi character is used to
    introduce many characters in the Novel – but the real hero is
    Narasimhavarman. It is certain that Kalki wanted to adopt a similar
    technique but somehow Vandhiyathevan triumphed over his own creator !

    * Usually such long historic stories have to portray some breaks in
    timeline (invariably). For example, in SS the last part happens after
    a gap of 9 years. But PS portrays events continuously for a period of
    6 months. If you trace back carefully, you can actually find out who
    was doing what for almost every day – for a period of 6 months.

    * Probably its portrayal of simultaneous happenings in many many
    places is unique to Tamil historic novel genere. At some point of
    time, he will be detailing different events happening in Srilanka,
    Tanjore, Pazhaiyarai, Kudanthai and Kadambur – and yet –
    with master
    craftsmanship – will link them in a very logical order – as
    pages
    move by…

    * Its characterization of people is a well discussed and well
    researched topic

    * This is probably the only novel in which we see almost all kinds of
    love between human beings portrayed –
    - Vandhiyathevan and Kundhavai who are in love with each other since
    their first sight.
    - Poonguzhali’s love for Arulmozhi and her compromise to marry
    Amudhan
    - Arulmozhi’s interest in Poonguzhali and his compromise to marry
    vanathi
    - Vanathi’s love towords Arulmizhi
    - Amudhan’s love towords Poonguzhali
    - Nandhini’s love towords Aditya and her revenge
    - Aditya’s love towords Nandhini
    - Parthibendhran’s love towords Nandhini
    - Pazhuvettaraiyar’s interest in Nandhini
    - Manimekalai’s love towords Vandhiyathevan

    Initially I thought of categorizing them (like one sided love, two
    sided love etc) but I find that it is difficult to do – given the
    wide spectrum of relationship kalki portrays

    * PS is perhaps the only novel in which the story is not entirely
    dominated by Hero. Sometimes I think PS has different heros at
    different points of time…
    - In Pallipadai events (Part I) Azvarkadiyan sounds like a hero
    - In Nilavarai and many other occations, ofcourse
    Vandhiyathevan dominates
    - In Part II Arulmozhi dominates in many occasions
    - Sendhan amudhan surprisingly dominates certain portains in
    Part IV and V (During Mandakini escape from Pallakku, when he becomes
    royal heir etc)
    - During the aftermath of floods (Part IV), Pazhuvettaraiyar
    certainly becomes a hero for a chapter or two
    Thus it is close to real life in which different people become heros
    at different points of time.

    * Surprise ! PS seems to have no villains ! (or rather everybody seem
    to have enough justifications) Nandhini might sound like a villi but
    after reading her childhood we understand that there are enough
    reasons behind her abhorrence. Ravidasan ? Soman sambavan ? Remember
    –
    they had vowed to give their life in case they fail to protect their
    leader. But instead they choose to live and take revenge. They
    undergo so many troubles to achieve their goal. Considering the
    cruelty of Pandiya’s murder – this can be understood.
    In other words, the negative forces are also portrayed with possible
    realism a writer can bestow upon his characters.

    I initially though of writing a small mail – but this is close to
    becoming an article. I can write many things like this….and yet
    may
    not able to fully portray the heights and depths of this greatest
    historic novel ever written.

    Your comments are welcome.

  • Profile picture of rajendhracholan rajendhracholan said 5 years, 6 months ago:

    But, nobody can deny the beautiful way in which Arulmozhivarman, has
    been portrayed.
    Infact, his introduction scene, is just as pleasant as it could be.

    He character later gains momentum, and reader expects him to be
    there in current scene all the time.

    RjC!

  • Profile picture of sps10142004 sps10142004 said 5 years, 6 months ago:

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    > ” … I initially though(t) of writing a small mail – but this is
    close to
    > becoming an article. I can write many things like this….and yet
    > may not able to fully portray the heights and depths of this greatest
    > historic novel ever written. (REFER BELOW)
    ================================
    FROM THERE TO RAJAKESARI .. !! (in 3 years ?)
    GREAT HEIGHT … NICE T O HEAR FROM YOU AGAIN ..
    Anbudan / sps
    ======================================

  • Profile picture of madan_sreenivasan madan_sreenivasan said 5 years, 6 months ago:

    Maybe its just me… but having seen ‘Raja raja cholan’ – the movie, I could
    only imagine Shivaji whenever the name arulmozhivarman was mentioned in the
    book… which in fact doesnt match the illustrations done by maniam – in
    which arulmozhivarman is always protrayed as a youthful character, of maybe
    16-20 years – which in turn contradicts Kalki’s own description of him as
    powerful enough to bring down vvthevan down from a horse…

    why am I ranting?

  • Profile picture of sps10142004 sps10142004 said 5 years, 6 months ago:

    Sivaji Ganesan as Rajarajan ! There cannot be a better Identify.

    ARUMOZHI – Rare tongue – is what Thiruvalangadu Copper plates of
    Rajendra call him of.
    ARULMOZHI – is ALSO NOT WRONG – incription as ARULMOZHI is too found in
    the Thanjavur Big Temple Entrance – Rajrajan Thiruvoil!
    When ARU(L)MOZHI CROWNED UTHAMA (It should have been Thiruvalangadu
    Copper Plates which inspired Kalki !) around 970 AD, he should have
    been youth of say 18 – 20 ? !..
    Because Rajendra participated in Wars from the early Reign of RRC (985
    AD- 1012) Arumozhi should have got married to Vaanathi soon after
    Uthama came to Power (say 970 – 975 ?!).

    Incidentally Dr. Kalaikkovan has recently comeout with EVIDENCE that
    ‘BHUVANAMDEVI thiruvayirudhiutha RAJENDRA CHOZHA DEVAR .. ” – means
    Vanathi was also known as Bhuvanamadevi !

    THIS FATHER AND SON COMBINATION IS AN UNIQUE COMBINATION.
    (Dear Kamal @ adithakarikalan bear with me :: I personally believe it is
    SPS and RjC @ SSS and NOT Karuvarar / RRC – who assumed themselves as
    Sanathana Munivars under the (Lotus) Feet of Lord Siva – as depicted in
    the Big Temple!)

    Dear Madan, now LOOK for a 20 year Old Agressive youth – performing Dual
    role (!?) for ARUMOZHI and Rajendra !

    And Remember this Arumozhi is a Wrestler !
    And a very romantic guy even after became known RRC: Vows not to perform
    JALAKREEDA till he conquers MANYAKETAM (which he does in 1006 – 07 – by
    conquering Sathyashreyan !) ~

    anbudan / sps

  • Profile picture of abhivencat abhivencat said 5 years, 6 months ago:

    kalki and maniam were having a serious problem portraying amv.

    face has to show compassion but body must have been like a wrestler or
    a ajaanabahu

    a very odd combination

    venketesh

  • Profile picture of sps10142004 sps10142004 said 5 years, 6 months ago:

    — In [email protected], “Sivapathasekaran”
    wrote:
    >
    > ====================================
    > > ” … I initially though(t) of writing a small mail – but this
    is
    > close to
    > > becoming an article. I can write many things like this….and yet
    > > may not able to fully portray the heights and depths of this
    greatest
    > > historic novel ever written. (REFER BELOW)
    > ================================

    Dear Gokul,

    Excellent Summation .. Re-reading makes it more interesting …

    NOW RECALLING BACK …

    PARANJOTI BECAME SIRUTHONDAR (of Thiruchengottangudi) …

    After Consecration of the Big temple, Thanjavur – on the 275 th day
    of the 25th Year of RRC – Thennvan Moovenda Velalan – donated 53
    Bronzes – which included Aadalvallan, Mahameru Vidantakar,
    Panchadehamurthy, Dakshinavitankar, Uma Parameswari among the Godly
    figures ..

    Included among the Adiyars ..:
    Sundarar with his consort Paravai ..
    Sambandar
    Navukkarasar ..
    Periyadevar @ RRC and his consort Olagamadevi ..
    - with a Thevarathevar – Chandrasekara murthy ..

    SEERALADEVAR + (HIS MOTHER) THIRUVENGATTU NAGAI & OF COURSE –
    SIRUTHONDAR @ Paranjothi!

    The bonding never ended .. at appears …

    anbudan / sps

  • Profile picture of deepaprakash deepaprakash said 5 years, 6 months ago:

    But seriously, very odd combination:) Gentle giant
    types

  • Profile picture of madan_sreenivasan madan_sreenivasan said 5 years, 6 months ago:

    Sorry for replying to the wrong mail… I somehow did not receive/notice SPS
    original reply to me.

    > Dear Madan, now LOOK for a 20 year Old Agressive youth – performing
    Dual
    > role (!?) for ARUMOZHI and Rajendra !

    Are you asking for a contemporary actor?

    Though I might disagree on the trend of movies he has been doing and though
    he may not be 20, I would say Ajith would be a great fit… he has shown
    that he can do negative and historical roles (asoka). He could also portray
    a younger face, and he is a skilled actor IMHO (In my humble opinion).

    But for raja raja chola alone, I would suggest rajkiran – who is the only
    one with the stature and Khambeeram to do it as of today.

    On the lighter side, Dhanush could do adithya karikalan. He seems to have
    the ill-luck of performing characters that dont suit his looks! ;)

    Another question while on the topic… Prince Charles is 60+ today but he
    still is not ‘King’. Is it possible that that during scantily warring times
    the kings had a long life and thier sons got to be King only at some ripe
    age?

  • Profile picture of sps10142004 sps10142004 said 5 years, 6 months ago:

    — In [email protected], Deepa Prakash
    wrote:
    ===============
    > But seriously, very odd combination:) Gentle giant
    > types
    ==================================
    Appears to be incomplete. If so, kindly repost.
    anbudan / sps
    ==================================
    > — “R.venketesh” abhivencat@… wrote:
    >
    > > kalki and maniam were having a serious problem
    > > portraying amv.
    > >
    > > face has to show compassion but body must have been
    > > like a wrestler or
    > > a ajaanabahu
    > >
    > > a very odd combination
    > >
    > > venketesh
    > >
    > > — In [email protected],
    > > “Sivapathasekaran”
    > > sps10142004@ wrote:
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Sivaji Ganesan as Rajarajan ! There cannot be a
    > > better Identify.
    > > >
    > > > ARUMOZHI – Rare tongue – is what Thiruvalangadu
    > > Copper plates of
    > > > Rajendra call him of.
    > > > ARULMOZHI – is ALSO NOT WRONG – incription as
    > > ARULMOZHI is too found
    > > in
    > > > the Thanjavur Big Temple Entrance – Rajrajan
    > > Thiruvoil!
    > > > When ARU(L)MOZHI CROWNED UTHAMA (It should have
    > > been
    > > Thiruvalangadu
    > > > Copper Plates which inspired Kalki !) around 970
    > > AD, he should have
    > > > been youth of say 18 – 20 ? !..
    > > > Because Rajendra participated in Wars from the
    > > early Reign of RRC
    > > (985
    > > > AD- 1012) Arumozhi should have got married to
    > > Vaanathi soon after
    > > > Uthama came to Power (say 970 – 975 ?!).
    > > >
    > > > Incidentally Dr. Kalaikkovan has recently comeout
    > > with EVIDENCE
    > > that
    > > > ‘BHUVANAMDEVI thiruvayirudhiutha RAJENDRA CHOZHA
    > > DEVAR .. ” – means
    > > > Vanathi was also known as Bhuvanamadevi !
    > > >
    > > > THIS FATHER AND SON COMBINATION IS AN UNIQUE
    > > COMBINATION.
    > > > (Dear Kamal @ adithakarikalan bear with me :: I
    > > personally believe
    > > it is
    > > > SPS and RjC @ SSS and NOT Karuvarar / RRC – who
    > > assumed themselves
    > > as
    > > > Sanathana Munivars under the (Lotus) Feet of Lord
    > > Siva – as depicted
    > > in
    > > > the Big Temple!)
    > > >
    > > > Dear Madan, now LOOK for a 20 year Old Agressive
    > > youth – performing
    > > Dual
    > > > role (!?) for ARUMOZHI and Rajendra !
    > > >
    > > > And Remember this Arumozhi is a Wrestler !
    > > > And a very romantic guy even after became known
    > > RRC: Vows not to
    > > perform
    > > > JALAKREEDA till he conquers MANYAKETAM (which he
    > > does in 1006 – 07 -
    > > by
    > > > conquering Sathyashreyan !) ~
    > > >
    > > > anbudan / sps
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > — In [email protected], “Madan U
    > > Sreenivasan”
    > > > wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > Maybe its just me… but having seen ‘Raja raja
    > > cholan’ – the
    > > movie, I
    > > > could
    > > > > only imagine Shivaji whenever the name
    > > arulmozhivarman was
    > > mentioned
    > > > in the
    > > > > book… which in fact doesnt match the
    > > illustrations done by
    > > maniam -
    > > > in
    > > > > which arulmozhivarman is always protrayed as a
    > > youthful character,
    > > of
    > > > maybe
    > > > > 16-20 years – which in turn contradicts Kalki’s
    > > own description of
    > > him
    > > > as
    > > > > powerful enough to bring down vvthevan down from
    > > a horse…
    > > > >
    > > > > why am I ranting?
    > > > >
    > > > > On 11/14/06, Rajendhra Cholan! rajendhracholan@
    > > wrote:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > But, nobody can deny the beautiful way in
    > > which
    > > Arulmozhivarman,
    > > > has
    > > > > > been portrayed.
    > > > > > Infact, his introduction scene, is just as
    > > pleasant as it could
    > > be.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > He character later gains momentum, and reader
    > > expects him to be
    > > > > > there in current scene all the time.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > RjC!
    > > > > >
    > > > > > — In [email protected]
    > > > ,
    > > > > > “S.Gokul” seshadrigokul@
    > > > > >
    > > > > > wrote:
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > MESSAGE NO 201 FROM ARCHIVES REPOSTED:
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Just thought I could summarize some of the
    > > unique features of
    > > PS
    > > > as
    > > > > > > compared to other historic novels written in
    > > Tamil -
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > * Most of the novels have a big invasion or
    > > fighting between 2
    > > > > > > kingdoms as their climax. The entire novel
    > > will be moving
    > > towards
    > > > > > > this event and the author would have
    > > supported one side -
    > > > > > portraying
    > > > > > > the other as the evil force. Kalki’s own SS
    > > is no exception to
    > > > > > this.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > But PS is different in this respect – to a
    > > careful observer it
    > > > will
    > > > > > > be evident that the novel does’nt have a
    > > climax on its own !
    > > Kalki
    > > > > > > felt that the renunciation of Crown by
    > > Arulmizhi was his
    > > climax
    > > > > > > (refer his conclusion to the novel) – to
    > > many readers it is
    > > the
    > > > > > > murder of Aditya – but to me it is neither
    > > or both. That is
    > > why
    > > > > > when
    > > > > > > you finish the novel, you always suffer from
    > > a sort of
    > > > > > > dissatisfaction – no other novel can give
    > > this feeling – that
    > > too
    > > > > > at
    > > > > > > the end of 5th volume !
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > * Most of the novels have a King or a prince
    > > as its hero – but
    > > > in
    > > > > > > PS
    > > > > > > a small, insignificant and noble warrior
    > > (Vandhiyathevan)
    > > becomes
    > > > a
    > > > > > > hero. It is interesting to note that Kalki
    > > actually wanted
    > >
    > === message truncated ===
    >
    >
    > Warm Regards,
    >
    > Deepa Prakash
    >
    >
    >
    >
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  • Profile picture of sps10142004 sps10142004 said 5 years, 6 months ago:

    — In [email protected], “Madan U Sreenivasan”
    wrote:

    Are you asking for a contemporary actor?
    Just drawn Y(our) attention! Thanks Madan.

    PRINCE CHARLES ?!
    I used to ponder myself .. You said it ..

    Re Military Meal :: can we be more explicit ..

    anbudan / sps
    =======================

  • Profile picture of sps10142004 sps10142004 said 5 years, 6 months ago:

    Rajni Ramki has brought this to attention:

    Re ww.varalaaru.com Oct issue :: Kamal @ adithakarikalan’s article
    related to Japanese ..
    ======================
    Note: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/rajinifans/japan2.jpg -
    Kamal presiding Chandramukhi 100th days function in Osaka.
    ================================
    Congrats Dear Kamal !
    Thank you Ramki.

    (For attn of new member : Our member Kamal @ adithakarikalan -
    organised Mudal yathirai – related to PS activities – is in the
    Editorial Bd of http://www.varalaaru.com)

    anbudan / sps

  • Profile picture of singrama-at-hotmail-dot-com singrama-at-hotmail-dot-com said 5 years, 6 months ago:

    Hi,

    I have been reading the scores of interesting postings by members about the characterisation of Kalki. Yes, his characters are like flesh and blood people, very lively, and that’s the reason why there’s been so much discussion about them in the forum and one of the reasons for people to read his books again and again.

    One of PS’s outstanding characters is chinna pazhuvettarayar. he’s the epitome of what a good and loyal soldier should be, fiercely loyal to the kingdom, to his brother periyavar but at the same time not afraid to open his heart and tell sundara chozhar and his brother what he does not like.

    In the first volume itself Kalki builds up his character and this is maintained till the end. He even goes to the extent of trying to kill his own daughter when he sees her in the company of old maduranthagan or amarabujangan nedunchezhiyan – the arch foe of the chola kingdom!

    And from the beginning he likes our hero VD, because of the latter’s valour and ready repartees. Though he tries to put him behind the bars, he always has a soft corner for him while he’s always doubtful of the intentions of his sis-in-law nandini. But even he does not realise the full extent of her trickery till all is almost lost. What a character!

    And when you talk of characters, the ones who I, and for that matter many among you, would hate the most are in this order: vaithiyar magan pinakapani, pallava parthipendran and even kandamaran. And we are all very amused when muthal manthiri aniruddha says that but for his intervention VD would have sent vaithiyar magan pinakapani to treat yama! That’s in the third part when VD jumps from the balcony and engages pinakapani in a boxing bout when the latter calls him a spy of pazhuvettarayars.

    Can you point out a more despicable character than pinakapani in the novel? I can’t. That’s the beauty of Kalki’s characterisation. And the way Kalki describes his death!

    And talking about historical romances by other authors, why have we not discussed ‘Ponnivanathu Poongiyil’ by Kalaimani Kothamangalam Subbu, serialised in ‘Kalki’ mag in the early seventies. It’s an outstanding book dealing with the Maratha rule in Thanjavur. And if any one can match Kalki in characterisation or in the use of the Tamil language in descriptions or humour, it could be only Kalaimani the author of the unforgettable ‘Thillana Mohanambal’ and ‘Raobahadur Singaram”, two novels which can be read and re-read countless times.

    Another historical novel I would like to recommend is Na Pa’s ‘Nithilavalli’, a fine book about what’s widely perceived as the dark period in Tamil Nadu history – kalappirar kaalam. Na Pa doesn’t have the art of mixing humour with story telling prowess like Kalki and Kalaimani, but is a fine writer and this novel is, amog his best, along with his best known work ‘kurinji malar’.

     

     

  • Profile picture of adhitha_karikalan adhitha_karikalan said 5 years, 6 months ago:

    Oh! indha vishayam group varaikkum vandhiduchaa!!!

    Thanks to Ramki and SPS.

    I was invited as special guest for Chandramukhi 500th
    day celebrations in Japan organised by Osaka Rajini
    fan club. They honoured me for helping them to
    understand tamil culture and to translate lyrics of
    rajini songs into japanese. Now, i am teaching tamil
    to 4 japanese people. And there are lot of people who
    love tamilnadu and language outside fan club also.

  • Profile picture of seshadrigokul seshadrigokul said 5 years, 6 months ago:

    Dear Mr.Ramaswamy

    Excellent comments and understanding of characters. Hats off !

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