Vandemataram
  • dear all,

    everything is fine... One suggestion!!!! can people in our group try to compose another song of their own which can represent all the facets of India as it exists at present / quote an already existing song which can atleast make an attempt to be as our national anthem apart from "Bande Mataram and Janagana .."?

    Can we try to do this???? or am i discussing anything extraneous to the objectives of the group????
  • > >
    > Thank you Mr. Naren.
    >
    > Is it IRONY or HISTORY that AR Rahman composed the Best Tune to
    > Vandemataram ...
    >
    > Times are changing ... sps

    Dear SPS,

    Thats a good point..but we should also remember that AR Rahman is not
    a muslim by birth ..vitta kora thotta koranu edho solluvale.... -:)
  • The word "Allah" is just the arab word for "God"

    Unfortunately, most islamic friends (who are converts, or
    descendents of converts) especially from our Tamilnadu seldom know
    this meaning. I have personally questioned many a islamic
    acquainance who just blinked when I wished to know the meaning
    of "Allah" as known to him. If only they knew the actual meaning of
    the pharases they use...............
    Because very few of them get the chance to attend their "madarasa"
    they just repeat every prayer or saying without ever knowing its
    meaning.

    A mother is treated by any child, as one equal to if not more
    than "God" himself.

    Thus there really is no chance for even a islamic member objecting
    to the worship of his mother.
  • This is on the lighter side - anyone who feels disturbed, kindly
    excuse me.

    In my boyhood, when I never knew Hindi, and whenever I heard the
    song Vande Mataram, it always sounded like "vandhu yematharome"
    which was a fitting song for the political party which was usually
    singing it and was in power. (I am however 66 years old now and know
    its meaning and purpose).

    All good wishes

    Sundaram
  • > Thus there really is no chance for even a islamic member objecting
    > to the worship of his mother.
    >
    > Regards
    >
    > Sundaram.

    Dear Sir,

    Your point is valid, but i feel its your opinion ...
    I like to narrate a couple of incidents I have come across. Again no
    offense meant to the muslim community , just recalling what I came
    across.

    almost 10 years back, when I was doing my B.Sc in Loyola college,we
    guessed he is a muslim. We friends used to go to the Football ground
    for lunch and used to chat leisurely over there. This particular
    classmate was also with us. During one of the cricket seasons, we
    were discussing about cricket and Indai-Pak match was going on that
    day. We were talking in favour of India,(as any Indian does) and were
    saying that Muslims will always support Pak, though they are indian.
    Since we had a Muslim member in the group, we wanted to clarify with
    him and asked him straingt, "whom do you support?". He was stunned by
    the question (was obvious from his face) and managed and stammering
    told us(we were nearly 10 people around) "my parents always suports
    Pakistan, but I support India"...oru panai sothukku oru soru padam.

    I have even heard from my Girl Friends(ayyo tappa nenaikadeenga naan
    appadi patta payan ella, I meant my friends who are girls)who studied
    in SIET, that during India-Pak mathches, all the college girls(almost
    all are muslims, since its a muslim college)used to listen to the
    commentry on the transister and shouts whenever Pak team hits a sixer
    or gets a wicket and openly will be shouting slogans in favour of
    Pakistan.

    If such were the sitiation, 50 years after Independence, with a
    generation who never witnessed the partition, freedom struggle etc,
    we can very well imagine what would have been the mind set of people
    during pre independence era.
    Its a bitter fact that 1947 partition not only split the geography,
    but also the hearts...which is still prevailing...

    Again no offence meant. Just shared the incident I happened to
    witness.
  • A couple of others by Bharathiyar(the unedited versions if I remember right)
    1)Sindu nathiyin disai
    2)Vande matharam enbom
  • I saw your message only today. I have been on the move.
    Give the devil its due.
    efficiency in sports and elsewhere (like in Pakistan International
    Airlines) has to be appreciated, by one and all, whether the opinion
    is from an islamic member or others.

    My son, who is a devout Hindu and will even die for the cause of
    Hinduism, does applaud Pakistani team whenever they score well!
  • Dear members,
    Cricket match is not a deciding factor.
    Why we should mix with a Game & Politics.
    Game may end within a day or two.
    The reason behind every match is different.
    Unofficially crores of rupees Betting is happened in
    last year Indian team's Pakistan tour.there is big
    Betting money is there than the patriotism.This is a
    truth.Everyone has to accept.

    Now Pakistan also thinking for more co-operation from
    India.Yesterday they released a big crowd of prisoners
    for the mutual co-operation.

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