Uthira-kosa-mangai
  • Hi SPS,

    Sorry for digressing. My question is on Uthirakosa mangai. The name suggests there is an equivalent place on the southern side. Uthira -> is another form of "Uttara" meaning North? Please do let me know, if there is another place or is it from another lore that we have a place called as such.
  • This Utharakosa Mangai is near Ramnad, approachable from Tuticorin as
    well. South side.

    But that is an interesting view point. If Beyond Ramnad itself is
    denoted UTHARA was there any Dakshina - farther South? Not heard of.
    but will look for.

    thanks Nanda. Your Bangalore meet is due!

    sps
  • Maybe,

    uthiram - blood
    kosam - body
    mangai - lady

    I am not sure about above. Just a wild guess
  • Hi,

    That sounds very closely to be a translation of "bloody Mary"

    Bangalore Meet - Did not see any favourable responses so far. I hope we have someone interested for the 23-Dec-07. Lets see the responses that we get.
  • I think in this place, Ravana's wife Mandothari did
    some penance to get a good husband.
  • Uthara-kosa-mangai
    Utharam = Upadesam
    Kosam = Ragasiyam
    Mangai = Parvathi
    The place gets this name because the secrets of ' Vedagamas' were told to Parvathi devi by Lord Shiva.
    This explanation is from the book " Thirumurai Thalangal" by Pulavar Jaya Senthilnathan, published by 'Vardamanan Pathipagam'.
    This book covers the 276 thirumurai places , giving in brief the sthala puranam, special anectodes, a description of the temple & also comes with a route map.
    This is the place where Parvati was born as a fisherwoman & the Lord marries her. (Thiruvilayadal)
    There is a saying in this region, "Mann Thonriyapothe Mangai Thonriyadu" to denote how ancient the place is.The inscriptions on the Moolasthanam wall has Mandodari's name mentioned there.
    This place is also believed tobe the "Elavanthigai Palli" mentioned in Sangam Literature.
    All the above is from the same book.
  • Thank you very much for this info.
  • Thank you very much.

    Very much interesting. Pulavar Jaya Sendhilnathan - under the
    auspicious of Kanchi Mutt - had brought out this Wonderful book.

    Varthaman Padippagam brought out a nice Edition some time back.
    Earlier it was his own Hard Board edition.

    Reminds me ::

    Siva explaining the meaning of OHM to Umai (Parvathi) as
    DAKSHINAMURTHY is at OMAMPULIYR Dakshinamurthy (near our Veeranam !).

    This belt is well-related to Ramayan episodes ::

    nearby Thiruppullani, Dasaratha is supposed to have had the Paayasam
    from Aadhinarayan (Jagannath) Temple which he gave to 3 of his
    wives !

    regards /

    sps
  • > Bangalore Meet - Did not see any favourable
    > responses so far. I hope we have someone interested
    > for the 23-Dec-07. Lets see the responses that we
    > get.
    >
    > Regards
    > Nanda

    Sorry I was a little busy, could not follow the flow
    of mails. Yes I am avaiable on the 23rd meeting.
  • >
    > I think in this place, Ravana's wife Mandothari did
    > some penance to get a good husband.


    bad advertisement for the place?


    actually shiva appeared as a baby to both mandothari and ravana here.


    we have a medium sized thread on this already.

    check it out

    venketesh
  • > This explanation is from the book " Thirumurai Thalangal" by
    Pulavar Jaya Senthilnathan, published by 'Vardamanan Pathipagam'.
    > This book covers the 276 thirumurai places , giving in brief the
    sthala puranam, special anectodes, a description of the temple & also
    comes with a route map.

    Hi
    this is perhaps the best book available on the 276 thevara sthalams.
    its complete. the last pages include the devaram on kiliyanoor( a
    place not yet identified)
    u.ve. saminatha iyer did the first book on the devara sthalams. in
    that there were only 274 temples. the thiruvidaivai near koradachery
    was not discovered to be a devara sthalam yet.( somebody scraped the
    plaster on the kouil walls and discovered a full devaram etched on
    it.)i think this is a first time. can somebody tell me where else a
    devaram is etched as an inscription.
    'ra.ye. so' another author also did a book in the 50's. the book is
    still under print by the spic foundations i suppose.
    the senthil nathan book is the most comprehensive and comes with a
    map. most of the people who have seen more than 200 of these temples
    can thank only this book.
    i guess less than a handfull would have seen all 276. ganeshan from
    our group has seen 270. "avara paarthaalE siva perumaanai paarththa
    maathiri"

    venketesh
















    > This is the place where Parvati was born as a fisherwoman & the
    Lord marries her. (Thiruvilayadal)
    > There is a saying in this region, "Mann Thonriyapothe Mangai
    Thonriyadu" to denote how ancient the place is.The inscriptions on
    the Moolasthanam wall has Mandodari's name mentioned there.
    > This place is also believed tobe the "Elavanthigai Palli"
    mentioned in Sangam Literature.
    > All the above is from the same book.
    > Regards
    > Shobha
    >
  • he might
    have visited almost all except ' Thiru Kailayam'.
    > My father must have visited close to 150. Avarum parka
    Sivapazhamathan iruppar :)

    Hi Shoba
    thiru kailayam is no longer the great obstacle. it is ketheshwaram in
    lanka.
    there are 2 paadal petra sthalams in srilanka. the other being thiru
    koneeswaram.
    last week i was in sri lanka and thought of visiting thiru
    koneeswaram.but people said its cumbersome geting a pass in short
    notice.
    I personally have seen 200-210. need to start again this year after
    my son's public exam.
    venketesh






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    > > This is the place where Parvati was born as a fisherwoman & the
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    > > There is a saying in this region, "Mann Thonriyapothe Mangai
    > Thonriyadu" to denote how ancient the place is.The inscriptions on
    > the Moolasthanam wall has Mandodari's name mentioned there.
    > > This place is also believed tobe the "Elavanthigai Palli"
    > mentioned in Sangam Literature.
    > > All the above is from the same book.
    > > Regards
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  • Hi
    i have nothing against ravana. just that he failed in his marital
    matters.- precisely what mandothari prayed for- right?

    venketesh
  • .
    I personally have seen 200-210. need to start again this year after
    my son's public exam.
    venketesh


    Hi Venketesh,
    Thanks. Appo ungala pathalum punniyam kidaikum !
    Of course Kailayam now is not a tough yatra if you have the means.
    All the very Best to your son in his Exam.
    Is he a Vidya mandir student too? Both my children studied there.
  • Of course Kailayam now is not a tough yatra if you have the means.

    hi Shoba,
    thats right.
    if you have the means you can be transported in a helicopter land at
    the banks of the manasarovar and see the hill from there.
    no breathing trouble, no altitude sickness at all.
    and soon a super highway is coming close to the area. the chinese
    government has started work. then we can drive from lhasa.

    check out GUGE in the google/ wikipedia. an entire kingdom thrived
    around the kailash hill. lots of archeological work going on there.
  • Hi Sps

    was away for my niece's wedding.

    it was at a place called nerkuppai in sivakangai district

    just before the town was a place called MAHIBALAN PATTI with an ASi
    board saying there was a kudavarai koil of 7-8th century there.
    also from the grooms house I could see the Piranmalai( a devaram
    shrine, also vallal paari's home town)

    both I could not visit because i was accompanying the couple as the
    maternal uncle - but sure I was in two minds


    venketesh
  • Hi Sps
    can you check out on Mahibalan patti kudavarai koil from agasthiyar
    group.
    Dr. Jaybee hails from that area, and must have surely discussed it.

    venketesh

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