A very very basic doubt
  • After reading the mail chain about the infant Arumozhi, I have a very
    basic doubt.
    Can we believe the historical novels. Accepted the authors add some
    fictious characters to add spice to the story.
    I started reading historical novels, as they are a good medium to know
    about our past. Now when these novels begin to contradict the truth,
    I am now thinking whether to believe to the novels or not.

    Can't the authors put a disclaimer at the starting that, "All
    information in this book are not 100% true" or something like that.

    I have come across a few American Authors, who put such disclaimers in
    the beginning of the book itself. So we are made to believe certain
    things.
  • Hi vijay,

    Even authors like 'Akilan','Vikraman','Kalki' etc
    do mention in the introduction that some characters in
    their novels are fiticious and the facts with
    evidences on which their novels are based. But they
    don't categorise as which characters are fiticious and
    which are not.
    Based on the evidences they got, they wrote the
    story but now we come of know of some evidences they
    failed to get or didn't try for. If we don't get any
    evidence then we could have believed the novels. But
    now since we are getting some evidences in the form of
    inscriptions etc we are neither able to believe the
    novels nor the evidences fully.
  • Dear Vijay

    Its a very valid doubt
    But if you read any of the historic novels by big authors like Kalki Sandilyan Akilan etc They always say the basis of their charectors and stories...

    If you carefully notice most of them will have a commoner or less known person as the main hero and a big historic charector as the base charector

    the examples are countless

    Vandiyadevan and arulmozhi Varman in Ponniyin selvan
    Paranjothi and Narasimha Pallavan in sivakamiyin Sabatham
    Parthiban and Mahendra Pallavan in Parthiban Kanavu


    Ilanjezhiyan and Karikalan in YavanaRani
    Ilayapallavan and Kulothungan in KadalPura

    Ilango and Rajendra in Vengaiyin Mainthan

    the examples are countless

    Most main historic novels are based on true historic charectors and times

    Sandilyan quotes Urithirangkananar in his opening gambit and prooves that the yavanars and arabs were coming in hoards to poompuhar
    The exploits of young karikalan against the chera and pandiyan kings is well written

    Kadalpura is based on the reason for Kulothungas invasion of Kalingam and Kalingathuparani which again is written and recorded in history but was there a koolvanigan or manjalazhahi well those obviosly are fictious


    Likewise Sivagamiyin sabatham is based on Mammallan conquest over Pulikesi Kalki just made a great romantic story out of it


    PS well we have talked about loads


    Vengaiyin Mainthan records Rajendra's conquest over Mahibalan

    so historic novels are not baseless but they are not gospel truths
  • Dear all...

    I agree with Sri here - that's why you have a fictional/lesser known
    character as the main hero, you can take liberties with them that you
    can't otherwise, with actual historical characters!

    On the other hand, most history-fiction writers don't claim that their
    work is the first and last gospel of truth - as far as history goes.
    It's the judicious mix of fact and fiction that makes it so much more
    interesting. Bare history is not that appealing:-))

    >>>>>>Likewise Sivagamiyin sabatham is based on Mammallan conquest
    over Pulikesi Kalki just made a great romantic story out of it>>>>>

    Amazing how much my own theories of Pallava history have undergone
    changes.:-) I'm now likely to consider Rajasimhan in a much better
    light:-)

    Re: the Thiruvalangadu plates, about Vanavanmadevi and her mystery
    child: This gets more and more mysterious. What can Prof. RN mean, by
    talking about a 'kuzhavi'???!!! I, um, stick to my theory - that this
    is a uruvagam of the people of Chola Nadu itself. What say, G?
  • > Amazing how much my own theories of Pallava history have undergone
    > changes.:-) I'm now likely to consider Rajasimhan in a much better
    > light:-)

    Not only that - you will be stunned if you visit badami / aihole /
    patthadakkal (karnataka) - a treasure trove of chalukyan art. You
    have to completely change your opinion about mangalesan and
    pulikesin as well !

    It is said that pulikesin took artists from tamilnadu. Similarly,
    when vikramaditya (pulikesi clan) ransacked kanchi (revenge on
    pallavas) - he visited kailasanatha temple, was awestuck and made
    many many grants to the temple and did'nt disturb a single stone.

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