Kannappan & Thee Methi - kindly ignore my earlier post
  • Hi,
    These two topics / threads over the last few days have dug into both
    history and religion. Just reading through these trails, not just
    the evolution of the religion, it is its adaptability that has comes
    to the fore. The fundamentals of the philosophy / dogma and its
    ability to accommodate anything from atheism, animal worship, idol
    worship, devotee worship, yogic and so on has been brought forward.
    This eventually had evolved to the raise as Bhakthi, Karma and Gayana
    yoga. Interestingly, we find Nambiandar Nambi, Rajarajan and Karvur
    Devar representing each of this yogic values as we go through
    Rajaraja's period.

    The primary concept of the religion is well described in every major
    deity - ignorance be subdued and that the knowledge prevail, Shiva
    dancing over apasmara or killing anthakasura, where symbolic of this
    (rama not being discussed without ravana, subramanya with peacock and
    his flag, Devi with Mahisha).
    When we do bow down anytime before these deities, we bow down to both
    the lord and the subdued. The glorification of the subdued had been
    part of the mythology and the religion. More glorious the subdued, the
    greater the deity. For the humans, nothing more is bigger than to
    conquer than thy oneself.

    The concept of karma which is shared by Hindu and Buddhist religions
    pivots on reincarnations / rebirths. This belief has remained constant
    in our belief. The social norms or conditioning of the society changed
    with the times. No more, the serving of PillaKKari, or treating
    women as a property, are acceptable social norms. Interestingly, the
    religious Law (Sutras) were actually subject to change, however the
    texts have not changed, but the implementation changed leading to
    localized traditions. Localization depended mainly on degree of
    isolation. The desire to get rid of the sins (mistakes not acceptable
    to social norms / Sutras) has been a primary driver for our Culture.
    Washing it away in Ganga or at the Lords feet, has kept the guilt
    accumulation in check. The penance to shed these, could be in form of
    fasting, Thee Methi, body piercing or rebirth. The society could
    always fall back on the consciousness of every individual to ensure
    that there is both a cleansing forum and the chance to conform to the
    social norms. The cyclical nature of performing these penance, again
    localized. Even the Kural says ..

    ͼîͼÕõ ¦À¡ý§À¡ø ´Ç¢Å¢Îõ ÐýÀõ
    ͼîͼ §¿¡ü¸¢ü ÀÅ÷ìÌ

    Pure and Bright gets the gold in fire
    and so the life by pain astute.

    Why have all the puranas gone about glorifying individuals for - for
    their one strand of character. Rama, called the Purushothama (uttaman
    of Purushas) did have controversies with the social norms of his time,
    so do the Nayanmars and others. Kannappa's act being right in strict
    sense of Agama, is not of consequence, as just one strand of
    character there is, what he lived by, and that cannot be questioned
    or compared or mimicked upon. This is what, set them apart and put
    them up in a pedestal. Every Nayanmar or Alwar or other great saints
    of every religion have displayed - their one character, which
    differentiates them. Just that the standards and the values which can
    only be personal to them, are what they have set themselves apart and
    is what they lived by. These gave them their spotless (guiltless) mind
    and as the Kural says,

    ÁÉòÐì¸ñ Á¡º¢Äý ¬¾ø «¨ÉòÐ «Èý
    ¬ÌÄ ¿£Ã À¢È.

    In spotless mind virtue is found
    And not in show and swelling sound.

    Guilt has been one primary feeling, which along with knowledge
    acquisition have driven the mankind and especially the hindu religion
    on the evolutionary path.
    I feel that any society that lets guilt takes the lead role in this
    context starts reacting negatively, while the society which uses it as
    its checks and balance and lets pursuit of knowledge lead, continue
    to evolve.

    Sorry about this long post.


    evolution or transformation process continued.... and continues..

    Siddhar paadal : " nattakallai devyvamendru naaly putpam saathiye .. "

    " Man placed a stone
    put flowers over it
    called it God... and see
    what is happening... !! "

    interesting points to ponder...

    and find out GOD - IF THERE IS GOD ?? !!


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