Ponniyin Selvan title
  • WHY KALKI COINED THE TITLE 'PONNIYIN SELVAN' WHILE RAJA RAJA HAS SEVERAL OTHER TITLES? CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, I COULDN'T FIND THIS TITLE AMONG OTHER TITLES FOR RAJA RAJA.

    SINCE CHOLA NADU IS MADE FERTILE BY KAUVERY, DOES KALKI THOUGHT IT WOULD BE APT FOR THE GREAT CHOLA KING TO GIVE THIS TITLE? AND THEN HE CAME UP WITH THE STORY OF HOW RAJA RAJA GOT THIS TITLE (THAT IS, AS A BABY HE WAS SAVED BY KAUVERY (ACTUALLY MANDAGINI ACCORDING TO PS)) TO JUSTIFY THE TITLE OR IS THERE ANY HISTORICAL EVIDENCE FOR THE RAJA RAJA TITLE PONNIYIN SELVAN? PLEASE CLARIFY. I AM QUITE EAGER TO KNOW.

    WHATEVER THE REASON BEHIND, THE TITLE 'PONNIYIN SELVAN' STANDS UNIQUE.

    REGARDS,
    PRIYA
  • Hi,

    I guess it has something to do with Kalki himself. I remember reading
    somewhere, that he indirectly means himself with the title Ponniyin
    selvan, the pinnacle of the novel he wrote.
  • Vanakkam,

    I guess Kalki would have read or heard (even might have invented) this title and thought this coulod be best suited title for the story.

    Just a thought.
    Kalki at more than one point, emphasizes through
    Kundavai that Arulmozhi was called as 'Ponniyin Selvan' as he was saved
    by Ponni/Kaveri herself in his young age. Also, Sundara Chozhar also
    remembers that event as a proof for Ezhathu Nachchiyar's
    revenge-seeking acts towards Sundarar's children. The same incidence,
    from Ezhatharasi' s point of view and Arulmozhi's point of view, shows
    the love she had in Sundarar which turned towards his children. Thus
    the same incidence gets discussed again and again by various characters
    in the storyline and also happens to be one that gave Arulmozhi a
    title. Kalki would have thought of this title to be more suitable for
    his story, which connects Ezhathu nachchiyar to the story through the
    incidence, As her relationship with Sundara Cholar was the triggering
    point for the complete story if we analyse.

    Hope, my reasoning makes some sense.

    Nandrigaludan,
    Amar
  • I guess it has something to do with Kalki himself. I remember
    reading
    > somewhere, that he indirectly means himself with the title Ponniyin
    > selvan, the pinnacle of the novel he wrote.
    >


    HI sivaram
    you hit the dot.
    the theory that any novel is autobiographical seems to come true here.

    kalki's father a gara munsif was nicknamed "ponnu iyer"

    his life though short seems to have had an incredible infuence on
    young kalki.

    he picked up his talent of katha kaalaatchebam/ hari katha at a
    young age,
    ponnu's son became poniyin mainthan perhaps.
    of course in his shortstories you can find traces of his mother, and
    neighbour ayyasmy iyer who was his mentor for long.
    most charecters struggle in a water body just like he did in
    actuality.

    its really woth a phd topic . "comparisons from kalkis life in scenes
    of PS"

    venketesh
  • Thank you Venkat, so interesting!! Could you say more on Kalki's mother and mentor and how they influenced his writing?
     
    Thank you!!
     
    Malathi
  • Hi

    mother was all sacrificing charecter after father died. they did have
    some land. brother venkaraman was the unifying factor. once jumped
    into the waters to save his drowning brother.'
    ayyasamy iyer and wife, the childless neighbours literally brought
    the family back on its feet.. he was a post man. he introduced the
    love of reading in kalki . was a.lso a energy healer. espeasially for
    snake bited,.
    but much later kalki in a short story based a charecter on ayyasamy.
    but in a slightly negative shade- that of a faith healer who beleives
    his healing does not work in the presence of a dalit.
    ayyasamy was very upset. dont know how he was pacified.
    kalkis life itself is very interesting.
    how his marriage was called off when his prospective father inlaw
    realises he is a jail bird.
    and how he postpones marriege for long. and how he ends up marrying
    a girl who cant READ, let alone enjoy his writings.
    kalki based a lot of writings from neighbourhood stories. there was a
    real robber on the cauvery/ kollidam bank. the kalvanin kathali was
    built around him.

    venketeh
  • > its really woth a phd topic . "comparisons from kalkis life in
    scenes
    > of PS"
    >
    > venketesh
    =========================>

    Oh Very nice.

    thanks and regards/ sps
  • Nanbargale

    I think this way. Arulmozhi varman, as a child, was about to be
    drowned in Kaveri.Even in these modern days, a guy who is caught in
    water currents is considered dead or the chances of his survival are
    bare minimal.But for the Chola Prince, river Kaveri saved his life or
    gave a rebirth.Mother is one who gives life to a child.

    Though he is son of the great Malayaman magal Vaanavan maadevi,kalki
    didn't name his novel as "Maadevi Magan" or similar, hinting to his
    biological mother.Since River Kaveri saved his life and it is an
    rebirth for Arulmozhi varman, she is regarded more than a mother.

    It is unusal for people who get drowned in river to come back to
    life.Rivers are also known for its mystical traits of not allowing
    people reach its banks once drowned.It is an unsual instance for a
    river to save a child and also for a child to come back to life after
    getting drowned.I can also correlate this instance to Bheema's
    drowning in Sea, saw Baathala logam, naaga logam and acquireed
    immense strengths and blessings.

    It is after this instance, people and Sundara Chola realised that
    Arulmozhi has divine powers and blessings.So Kalki could have thought
    it is apt to frame "Mother Ponni's" title to his novel.Thus Vanavan
    Maadeviyin Selvan became "Ponniyin Selvan".

    DOes it make sense or is confusing?

    Laks
  • Thanks you all for your responses. The discussions regarding the title PS are really very interesting.

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